From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-138472-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1SW2fr-0000YH-50 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 20 May 2012 09:43:39 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C46CDE08A4; Sun, 20 May 2012 09:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gh0-f181.google.com (mail-gh0-f181.google.com [209.85.160.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294F1E089D for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 20 May 2012 09:41:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbz13 with SMTP id z13so266321ghb.40 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 20 May 2012 02:41:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=iu5MIVlcXax0pFngAo9tFmjFzcpi3sayD6N9MFJdoGk=; b=kMNw09VQG1RfTuXcQJCI/m+iZP015RB1tNyzTlvB9lM1CO8kak6Rkt5YJ6TqcIlapJ /0uMI2tctdUTKrThPm+TJpqMC1kUUpgyqaXb04iV/Ylo3GnhFlaN/D7XAF/c4/GWxnEE D7aoC3d4hqexOSbECTixV1owhAUrrIxdsIo5PdlhecC4J9RcKgCggx+mz7SiWxXuFqdu getk/nPvyqkJBoItQZzosSEqcbzKpReKciZjclpZbpT0wRlXYAjwMJia6/tSBUAb1M4/ CQOaSuoyaXb5hS1bX0V6nClreRUHLxdyjcRjnWIfHMMFMINO62NEUmWlac/Frm3aglP9 MiNA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.78.105 with SMTP id f69mr18588192yhe.15.1337506884665; Sun, 20 May 2012 02:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.146.156.18 with HTTP; Sun, 20 May 2012 02:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.146.156.18 with HTTP; Sun, 20 May 2012 02:41:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120519141906.GA31574@badass.gateway.2wire.net> References: <4FB789E2.5050604@wht.com.au> <20120519141906.GA31574@badass.gateway.2wire.net> Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 11:41:24 +0200 Message-ID: <CAMix8LFkc=cJjTp0rO5xM51AgA4fAp3LCiJfdoCL853==E4C_w@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ogg/mp3 volume From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jes=C3=BAs_J=2E_Guerrero_Botella?= <jesus.guerrero.botella@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf300fae31bec36204c07496b8 X-Archives-Salt: c3bfbd37-c571-4d26-9e8c-0d257498f5b3 X-Archives-Hash: 95552543ac786aaf730ac743dc56655e --20cf300fae31bec36204c07496b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just for sake of correctness, what the op wants is called normalization, in the world of sound edition. It can be done once, as you rip the file or it can be done on the fly when playing it. "replaygain" is (as the name itself says) an implementation of this that automatically adjusts the gain of each soundtrack. But its just the name of the concrete implementation, not the name of the process. Just like volvo is a brand of cars, but not all cars are branded volvo. I,ll add that if you normalize while ripping you are damaging permanently the audio files, which in addition to a loussy format like mp3, and cheap speakers, can result in a very bad thing, but that really depends on how demanding your ear is... Specially for bands like led zeppelin, I would just use the second method (adjust while playing, rather than while ripping). Someday you will want to hear the whole disk as it was intended, and if you normalized on ripping you won't be able to. --- Jes=C3=BAs Guerrero Botella El 19/05/2012 16:22, <ny6p01@gmail.com> escribi=C3=B3: > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 07:54:10PM +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote: > > Hi all, > > Is there a way to change the "volume" of a mp3/vorbis track? By > volume, > > I'm referring to lining up several tracks on your > > computer/phone/tablet/thingy, setting the one volume level and then > > letting them play. For example, the first track will be quiet, of all > > ironies my Led Zeppelin tracks are all like this, the next track will b= e > > loud, the next track "in the middle", in other words it's Goldilocks an= d > > the three bears with audio tracks. > > > > Is there a way I can either during the ripping process, or > subsequently > > in a post-processing, make the "average" volume of all my tracks the > same? > > > > Any thoughts greatly appreciated, > > > > Andrew > > don't rip myself, but back in the day, the big ripping programs would usu > have some kind of 'leveling' plugin that would equalize the volumes on al= l > the tracks. > > Terry > --20cf300fae31bec36204c07496b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <p>Just for sake of correctness, what the op wants is called normalization,= in the world of sound edition.</p> <p>It can be done once, as you rip the file or it can be done on the fly wh= en playing it. "replaygain" is (as the name itself says) an imple= mentation of this that automatically adjusts the gain of each soundtrack. B= ut its just the name of the concrete implementation, not the name of the pr= ocess. Just like volvo is a brand of cars, but not all cars are branded vol= vo.</p> <p>I,ll add that if you normalize while ripping you are damaging permanentl= y the audio files, which in addition to a loussy format like mp3, and cheap= speakers, can result in a very bad thing, but that really depends on how d= emanding your ear is...</p> <p>Specially for bands like led zeppelin, I would just use the second metho= d (adjust while playing, rather than while ripping). Someday you will want = to hear the whole disk as it was intended, and if you normalized on ripping= you won't be able to.<br> ---<br> Jes=C3=BAs Guerrero Botella </p> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">El 19/05/2012 16:22, <<a href=3D"mailto:ny6p= 01@gmail.com">ny6p01@gmail.com</a>> escribi=C3=B3:<br type=3D"attributio= n"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left= :1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 07:54:10PM +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote:<br> > Hi all,<br> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Is there a way to change the "volume" o= f a mp3/vorbis track? By volume,<br> > I'm referring to lining up several tracks on your<br> > computer/phone/tablet/thingy, setting the one volume level and then<br= > > letting them play. For example, the first track will be quiet, of all<= br> > ironies my Led Zeppelin tracks are all like this, the next track will = be<br> > loud, the next track "in the middle", in other words it'= s Goldilocks and<br> > the three bears with audio tracks.<br> ><br> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Is there a way I can either during the ripping pr= ocess, or subsequently<br> > in a post-processing, make the "average" volume of all my tr= acks the same?<br> ><br> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Any thoughts greatly appreciated,<br> ><br> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Andrew<br> <br> don't rip myself, but back in the day, the big ripping programs would u= su<br> have some kind of 'leveling' plugin that would equalize the volumes= on all<br> the tracks.<br> <br> Terry<br> </blockquote></div> --20cf300fae31bec36204c07496b8--