From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Qeibr-00030Z-Ef for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 07:02:52 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DD1B21C07E; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 07:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vw0-f53.google.com (mail-vw0-f53.google.com [209.85.212.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D67F21C07E for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 07:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws13 with SMTP id 13so650164vws.40 for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 00:01:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tjI3FyJbA+I+YO/wgY654xitMqKZMUC2mWxfgaSMspo=; b=BGnWjZK1YFUU9Q3rQq0srTrFvt0iie1XCsSVkERl5hqxhF7IMu1sVfHyvpJJrJkOdK eSLUIgp013Bo9i6J/K4NiE+XeyS7p9T8BvKSZa3Nubyi2xW5V+7IsVMZxB+BMUU9gYuy H7dZL7HcpAULxwY3ctXrIndj6c5J8dnaHMvAA= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.179.136 with SMTP id dg8mr550230vdc.281.1310022088686; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 00:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.184.200 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 00:01:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E14B72C.6080004@gmail.com> References: <4E11EEF3.70804@gmail.com> <1402354.G0EMuDhieW@nazgul> <4E122A95.7060707@gmail.com> <4E1364B6.3090405@gmail.com> <4E1376E9.6010103@gmail.com> <4E1392D6.2090904@gmail.com> <4E14B72C.6080004@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 09:01:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups. From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jes=C3=BAs_J=2E_Guerrero_Botella?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 86fdb6cc5c0406a8684fecd7d9953f1c 2011/7/6 Dale : > Jes=C3=BAs J. Guerrero Botella wrote: >> >> Dale, random hard-lockups are only due to hardware or kerne, it can't >> be otherwisel (drivers count as part of kernel). The fact that >> compilation doesn't lock your system only means that the thing >> (whatever it is) is not bount to intensive I/O operations and/or high >> cpu loads. >> >> Openldap itself can't hard lock up anything if the kernel doesn't give >> it permissions to do so (kernel bug) or if the hardware is not faulty. >> Same goes for tray apps. >> >> > > OK. =C2=A0I tested this and it doesn't help any. =C2=A0I tried three diff= erent > kernels, all of which I have used in the past with no problems, and get t= he > same thing. =C2=A0I have tried reinstalling nvidia-drivers and a differen= t > versions of nvidia-drivers, same thing. =C2=A0So, either previously worki= ng > kernels are now broke, nvidia which was working fine just a few days ago > with no recent updates here just broke or just maybe it is something else= we > have yet to figure out yet. =C2=A0I also ran memtest for HOURS with not o= ne > problem reported. > > Given I have tried the above, do you still think it is kernel, nvidia or > hardware? =C2=A0I'm about to run tests on the drive now. =C2=A0I suspect = it is going > to show no problems as well. I can't know what it is, but all the kernels you list are .38, and all of them are affected by the bug I described, so you haven't discarded anything yet. Try 2.6.39.2 if you want to discard that. All the drivers you've tried are also the same nvidia-drivers, so that's a poor attempt as well. Try vesa, as said. All I say is that user land applications CAN'T hard lock the whole OS unless the kernel let's them do so. And that can only happens because of three reasons: a) kernel bug b) drivers c) hardware Unless it's not truly a hard-lock, in which case the title of the thread is misleading. > I did try .39 but it had issues. =C2=A0I got rid of those. Right, but .38 suffers the bug we are telling you. So you'll have to fix these issues, or you'll never discard the possibility that's the USB bug from .38 bitting you. --=20 Jes=C3=BAs Guerrero Botella