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From: "Jesús J. Guerrero Botella" <jesus.guerrero.botella@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 09:01:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMix8LEp4hE9eV6r5Gv=Ki14WssAKGAXBWKDjg2sBzh+TPGtLQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E14B72C.6080004@gmail.com>

2011/7/6 Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>:
> Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote:
>>
>> Dale, random hard-lockups are only due to hardware or kerne, it can't
>> be otherwisel (drivers count as part of kernel). The fact that
>> compilation doesn't lock your system only means that the thing
>> (whatever it is) is not bount to intensive I/O operations and/or high
>> cpu loads.
>>
>> Openldap itself can't hard lock up anything if the kernel doesn't give
>> it permissions to do so (kernel bug) or if the hardware is not faulty.
>> Same goes for tray apps.
>>
>>
>
> OK.  I tested this and it doesn't help any.  I tried three different
> kernels, all of which I have used in the past with no problems, and get the
> same thing.  I have tried reinstalling nvidia-drivers and a different
> versions of nvidia-drivers, same thing.  So, either previously working
> kernels are now broke, nvidia which was working fine just a few days ago
> with no recent updates here just broke or just maybe it is something else we
> have yet to figure out yet.  I also ran memtest for HOURS with not one
> problem reported.
>
> Given I have tried the above, do you still think it is kernel, nvidia or
> hardware?  I'm about to run tests on the drive now.  I suspect it is going
> to show no problems as well.

I can't know what it is, but all the kernels you list are .38, and all
of them are affected by the bug I described, so you haven't discarded
anything yet. Try 2.6.39.2 if you want to discard that.

All the drivers you've tried are also the same nvidia-drivers, so
that's a poor attempt as well. Try vesa, as said.

All I say is that user land applications CAN'T hard lock the whole OS
unless the kernel let's them do so. And that can only happens because
of three reasons:

a) kernel bug
b) drivers
c) hardware

Unless it's not truly a hard-lock, in which case the title of the
thread is misleading.

> I did try .39 but it had issues.  I got rid of those.

Right, but .38 suffers the bug we are telling you. So you'll have to
fix these issues, or you'll never discard the possibility that's the
USB bug from .38 bitting you.

-- 
Jesús Guerrero Botella



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-07-07  7:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-04 16:48 [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups Dale
2011-07-04 17:12 ` Jesús J. Guerrero Botella
2011-07-04 18:56   ` Dale
2011-07-04 22:17     ` Jesús J. Guerrero Botella
2011-07-04 22:49       ` Dale
2011-07-05  6:58         ` Jesús J. Guerrero Botella
2011-07-05  7:12           ` Dale
2011-07-04 20:36   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-04 21:03     ` Dale
2011-07-05 19:23       ` Dale
2011-07-05 20:07         ` Paul Hartman
2011-07-05 20:41           ` Dale
2011-07-05 22:40             ` Dale
2011-07-05 23:07               ` Jesús J. Guerrero Botella
2011-07-05 23:09                 ` Jesús J. Guerrero Botella
2011-07-06  0:03                 ` Dale
2011-07-06 14:44                   ` Peter Humphrey
2011-07-06 14:57                     ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-06 19:27                 ` Dale
2011-07-06 19:51                   ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-06 22:00                     ` Dale
2011-07-06 23:46                       ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-07  2:41                         ` Dale
2011-07-07  3:13                           ` Dale
2011-07-07  4:01                             ` Dale
2011-07-07  6:53                               ` William Kenworthy
2011-07-07  7:21                                 ` Dale
2011-07-07 13:07                               ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-09  1:53                                 ` Dale
2011-07-09  8:15                                   ` William Kenworthy
2011-07-07  7:01                   ` Jesús J. Guerrero Botella [this message]
2011-07-07  7:29                     ` Dale
2011-07-07  8:44                       ` Dale
2011-07-06  1:52             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-07-06  4:16               ` Dale
2011-07-06  4:26                 ` Paul Hartman
2011-07-06  5:12                   ` Dale
2011-07-06  5:19                     ` Paul Hartman
2011-07-06  5:38                       ` Dale
2011-07-07 22:27                         ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2011-07-08  4:43                           ` Dale
2011-07-08  6:02                             ` Mick
2011-07-08  7:31                               ` Dale
2011-07-08  7:44                                 ` Dale
2011-07-09  1:49                                   ` [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics Dale
2011-07-09  7:45                                     ` Mick
2011-07-09  9:03                                       ` Dale
2011-07-09 11:29                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-09 16:11                                           ` Dale
2011-07-09  9:20                                     ` András Csányi
2011-07-09 16:18                                       ` Dale
2011-07-09 17:31                                         ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-09 19:28                                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-07-09 20:56                                           ` Dale
2011-07-09 21:34                                             ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-07-09 22:26                                               ` Dale
2011-07-09 23:12                                                 ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-09 23:55                                                   ` Dale
2011-07-10  0:12                                                     ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-10  1:36                                                       ` Dale
2011-07-10  2:41                                                         ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-10  3:31                                                           ` Dale
2011-07-10  4:32                                                             ` Joshua Murphy
2011-07-10  6:46                                                               ` Dale
2011-07-10 11:09                                                                 ` Willie Wong
2011-07-10 18:49                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-10 19:40                                                       ` Dale
2011-07-10 23:10                                                         ` walt
2011-07-11  5:09                                                           ` Dale
2011-07-11  9:13                                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-11 16:42                                                           ` Alex Schuster
2011-07-11 20:56                                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-11 22:17                                                             ` walt
2011-07-11 22:33                                                               ` Dale
2011-07-10  9:32                                                 ` pk
2011-07-10 19:42                                                   ` Dale
2011-07-10 22:05                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-11  0:27                                                       ` Dale
2011-07-11  2:05                                                         ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-11  2:11                                                           ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-11  5:03                                                             ` Dale
2011-07-11  5:35                                                               ` Bill Kenworthy
2011-07-11  6:49                                                                 ` Dale
2011-07-11  7:21                                                                   ` Dale
2011-07-11  8:15                                                                     ` Jesús J. Guerrero Botella
2011-07-11 20:26                                                                       ` Dale
2011-07-14  5:31                                                                         ` Dale
2011-07-14  8:07                                                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-14  8:28                                                                             ` Dale
2011-07-14  9:09                                                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-14 15:42                                                                                 ` Mick
2011-07-14 18:28                                                                               ` Daniel da Veiga
2011-07-14 13:52                                                                           ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-14 14:54                                                                             ` Willie Wong
2011-07-14 15:09                                                                               ` Dale
2011-07-14 15:39                                                                               ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-14 16:06                                                                                 ` Peter Humphrey
2011-07-14 19:01                                                                                   ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-11 10:11                                                                     ` William Kenworthy
2011-07-11  5:58                                                               ` Dale
2011-07-11 12:47                                                               ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-11 13:45                                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-11 14:17                                                                   ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-07-11 15:12                                                                     ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-11 21:00                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-11 21:32                                                                       ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-11 22:30                                                                         ` Dale
2011-07-11 23:14                                                                           ` Peter Humphrey
2011-07-11 23:29                                                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-11 15:11                                                                   ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-11 21:20                                                                 ` Dale
2011-07-11  9:15                                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-11 21:30                                                           ` Dale
2011-07-11 23:48                                                             ` walt
2011-07-11 17:10                                                         ` Alex Schuster
2011-07-11 21:47                                                           ` Dale
2011-07-14 23:02                                                           ` Dale
2011-07-10 22:24                                                     ` Peter Humphrey
2011-07-11  0:49                                                       ` Dale
2011-07-09 17:16                                     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-09 18:42                                       ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-08  7:46                             ` [gentoo-user] Re: KDE and HARD lock ups Neil Bothwick
2011-07-08  9:19                               ` Dale
2011-07-08 11:16                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-08 16:13                                   ` Dale
2011-07-06  7:13                 ` [gentoo-user] " Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-07-06  7:27                   ` Dale
2011-07-06  7:35                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-06  8:08                       ` Dale
2011-07-06  8:53                         ` Dale
2011-07-06  9:12                           ` Urs Schutz
2011-07-06  9:38                         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-06  9:36                       ` Peter Ruskin
2011-07-06  9:51                         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-06 10:37                           ` Mick
2011-07-06 11:38                             ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-06 20:32                               ` Mick
2011-07-06 10:56                     ` Tanstaafl
2011-07-06  8:11               ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-07 21:59                 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2011-07-07 22:25                   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-09 10:34                   ` Sebastian Beßler
2011-07-05 23:04           ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2011-07-05 23:14             ` Paul Hartman
2011-07-05 23:49               ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-06  4:19                 ` Paul Hartman
2011-07-06  7:26                   ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-04 20:47 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
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2011-07-05  0:46       ` Gregory Shearman
2011-07-05  2:48         ` Dale
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2011-07-07 22:39 Robin Atwood
2011-07-09  2:34 ` Dale

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