From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D0F1381F3 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 02:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84163E0BA5; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 02:39:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ve0-f180.google.com (mail-ve0-f180.google.com [209.85.128.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 850CDE0AAC for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 02:39:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f180.google.com with SMTP id pb11so2688324veb.11 for ; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:39:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=gEqRL2STmp3Tmk+DVWQ5BTNp8N0IwIEOnAm5Q5oV4I4=; b=ar9cIW+Ta04j7V0fZgQwIT+bRCWJb5DwiYDtDGdq22D/hKYtzmJbIk2ItddxMNyjPJ a6v+HArqYUSMbOClp/ka3MR10w0NTYfwgBZMSpA6amROdE2Ew3Bn+maGLXPGkXSBULqO rdOLzKA4hwjw7uKnc9suSjQPXZMBxMkN16xbyE0qwgbNfzaUXDIDILQb0Eduj7IxHp3c GxMCMuk3aabrk7jjfoQ7SwzUU9YNF6niTVBiG5Jr9xRT0xvBP/vu4a9be1XCJdJ4MheO tQeDAoNuPke0ghhFFHwWOg0IZT+FJejSQGaUJ2ryfuwmmrBnZE26ekLXfR96qA9hHLC0 lXLw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.136.4 with SMTP id pw4mr14513273veb.10.1376879966463; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: microcaicai@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.208.6 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.208.6 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:39:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <521142A7.1020702@coolmail.se> References: <5211226F.2000000@libertytrek.org> <201308182208.43780.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <521142A7.1020702@coolmail.se> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 10:39:26 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: UVK3t31mNb-hqeQa3EIl2YirlU8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo From: microcai To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5dba684cabc704e443d9b3 X-Archives-Salt: 3093bdd9-5d2a-4e2a-badb-d30b79c501e8 X-Archives-Hash: 1c0d67e08f9ef19297e1b6970c504442 --047d7b5dba684cabc704e443d9b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =E5=9C=A8 2013-8-19 =E4=B8=8A=E5=8D=885:55=EF=BC=8C"pk" =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > > On 2013-08-18 23:08, Mick wrote: > > > I honestly cannot understand why we/Gentoo are allowing the RHL > > monolithic development philosophy to break what we have. Is > > Poettering the only developer available to the Linux world? Are > > RHL dictating what path Debian and its cousin distros should > > follow? > > Problem is that Linux is dependent on udev and udev is in the hands of > Kay Sievers which also develops systemd together with Lennart > Poettering which in turn used to be a Gnome developer... With that > said, what I cannot understand is why people advocating systemd (and > the kitchen-and-sink model) are using Gentoo in the first place. Are > they just trying to make the rest of the Linux distro landscape as > miserable as Fedora? Why don't they stay with Fedora instead of trying > to turn Gentoo into Fedora? > > Best regards > > Peter K > any one complant to systemd is not a programer. he does not understand how bad sysvinit it is from the code point of view.. some one even say the old version is more stable than latest version even the author say no and drop the support. this is all the stupicy of non programer. they think they understand progam while in fact no. --047d7b5dba684cabc704e443d9b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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> On 2013-08-18 23:08, Mick wrote:
>
> > I honestly cannot understand why we/Gentoo are allowing the RHL > > monolithic development philosophy to break what we have. =C2=A0Is=
> > Poettering the only developer available to the Linux world? =C2= =A0Are
> > RHL dictating what path Debian and its cousin distros should
> > follow?
>
> Problem is that Linux is dependent on udev and udev is in the hands of=
> Kay Sievers which also develops systemd together with Lennart
> Poettering which in turn used to be a Gnome developer... With that
> said, what I cannot understand is why people advocating systemd (and > the kitchen-and-sink model) are using Gentoo in the first place. Are > they just trying to make the rest of the Linux distro landscape as
> miserable as Fedora? Why don't they stay with Fedora instead of tr= ying
> to turn Gentoo into Fedora?
>
> Best regards
>
> Peter K
>

any one complant to systemd is not a programer. he does not understand h= ow
bad sysvinit it is from the code point of view..

some one even say the old version is more stable than latest version eve= n the author say no and drop the support.

this is all the stupicy of non programer. they think they understand pro= gam while in fact no.

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