[gentoo-user] [systemd vs consolekit] packagekit-base

[gentoo-user] [systemd vs consolekit] packagekit-base

[András Csányi]

Hi All,

Due to the fact I use Unity and it pulls lot of gnome stuff I started
to migrate my desktop from consolekit to systemd. At the point
described below I run out of knowledge. Does not matter what I do
packagekit-base package wants consolekit. It looks like badly... :S

Thanks in advance for any help!

USE="... systemd udev policykit -consolekit ..."

[ebuild  N     ] app-admin/packagekit-base-0.7.4  USE="introspection
networkmanager (policykit) udev -connman -cron -doc -entropy -nsplugin
-pm-utils -static-libs {-test}" LINGUAS="-as -bg -bn -ca -cs -da -de
-el -en_GB -es -fi -fr -gu -he -hi -hu -it -ja -kn -ko -ml -mr -ms -nb
-nl -or -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -sk -sr -sr@latin -sv -ta -te -th
-tr -uk -zh_CN -zh_TW" 1,459 kB
[ebuild  N     ]  sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.6  USE="acl pam (policykit)
-debug -doc (-selinux) {-test}" 358 kB
[blocks B      ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking
sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.6)

Total: 2 packages (2 new), Size of downloads: 1,817 kB
Conflict: 1 block (1 unsatisfied)

 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.

  (sys-apps/systemd-206::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
    >=sys-apps/systemd-206[gudev?,introspection?,kmod?,selinux?,static-libs(-)?]
(>=sys-apps/systemd-206[gudev,introspection,kmod]) required by
(virtual/udev-206::gentoo, installed)

  (sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.6::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
    sys-auth/consolekit required by
(app-admin/packagekit-base-0.7.4::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)


For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following
section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked

sayusi-desktop sayusi # eix -s packagekit-base
* app-admin/packagekit-base
     Available versions:  (~)0.6.22^t (~)0.7.4^t {connman cron doc
entropy +introspection networkmanager nsplugin pm-utils +policykit
static-libs test udev LINGUAS="as bg bn ca cs da de el en_GB es fi fr
gu he hi hu it ja kn ko ml mr ms nb nl or pa pl pt pt_BR ro ru sk sr
sr@latin sv ta te th tr uk zh_CN zh_TW"}
     Homepage:            http://www.packagekit.org/
     Description:         Manage packages in a secure way using a
cross-distro and cross-architecture API

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Re: [gentoo-user] [systemd vs consolekit] packagekit-base

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:06 PM, András Csányi <sayusi.ando@sayusi.hu> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Due to the fact I use Unity and it pulls lot of gnome stuff I started
> to migrate my desktop from consolekit to systemd. At the point
> described below I run out of knowledge. Does not matter what I do
> packagekit-base package wants consolekit. It looks like badly... :S
>
> Thanks in advance for any help!
>
> USE="... systemd udev policykit -consolekit ..."
>
> [ebuild  N     ] app-admin/packagekit-base-0.7.4  USE="introspection
> networkmanager (policykit) udev -connman -cron -doc -entropy -nsplugin
> -pm-utils -static-libs {-test}" LINGUAS="-as -bg -bn -ca -cs -da -de
> -el -en_GB -es -fi -fr -gu -he -hi -hu -it -ja -kn -ko -ml -mr -ms -nb
> -nl -or -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -sk -sr -sr@latin -sv -ta -te -th
> -tr -uk -zh_CN -zh_TW" 1,459 kB
> [ebuild  N     ]  sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.6  USE="acl pam (policykit)
> -debug -doc (-selinux) {-test}" 358 kB
> [blocks B      ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking
> sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.6)
>
> Total: 2 packages (2 new), Size of downloads: 1,817 kB
> Conflict: 1 block (1 unsatisfied)
>
>  * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
>  * installed at the same time on the same system.
>
>   (sys-apps/systemd-206::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
>     >=sys-apps/systemd-206[gudev?,introspection?,kmod?,selinux?,static-libs(-)?]
> (>=sys-apps/systemd-206[gudev,introspection,kmod]) required by
> (virtual/udev-206::gentoo, installed)
>
>   (sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.6::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
>     sys-auth/consolekit required by
> (app-admin/packagekit-base-0.7.4::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
>
>
> For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following
> section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked
>
> sayusi-desktop sayusi # eix -s packagekit-base
> * app-admin/packagekit-base
>      Available versions:  (~)0.6.22^t (~)0.7.4^t {connman cron doc
> entropy +introspection networkmanager nsplugin pm-utils +policykit
> static-libs test udev LINGUAS="as bg bn ca cs da de el en_GB es fi fr
> gu he hi hu it ja kn ko ml mr ms nb nl or pa pl pt pt_BR ro ru sk sr
> sr@latin sv ta te th tr uk zh_CN zh_TW"}
>      Homepage:            http://www.packagekit.org/
>      Description:         Manage packages in a secure way using a
> cross-distro and cross-architecture API

Unity is in the tree? Where?

The ebuild for packagekit-base has a hard dependency on consolekit,
without an option for systemd. This is because the last version of
PackageKit in the tree is 0.7.4, which is more than a year older (was
released in April 2012).

If you use Unity, the DE by Canonical for Ubuntu, the last thing you
want is systemd. Canonical/Ubuntu is pretty clear on the fact that
they support Upstart, not systemd.

And lastly, why do you want/need PackageKit? It worked horribly with
portage, last time I tried some years ago.

If you use GNOME you need to use systemd. Unity is a completely
different beast (although it uses the same technologies behind the
curtains), and systemd would be blocked by some Unity stuff, if I
understand correctly.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] [systemd vs consolekit] packagekit-base

[András Csányi]

On 25 July 2013 22:31, Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:06 PM, András Csányi <sayusi.ando@sayusi.hu> wrote:
>> Hi All,

[snip]

> Unity is in the tree? Where?

In the unity-gentoo overlay. At the moment the overlay packages are
clashing the already unmasked gnome-3.8. It requires a little job to
manage it.

> The ebuild for packagekit-base has a hard dependency on consolekit,
> without an option for systemd. This is because the last version of
> PackageKit in the tree is 0.7.4, which is more than a year older (was
> released in April 2012).
>
> If you use Unity, the DE by Canonical for Ubuntu, the last thing you
> want is systemd. Canonical/Ubuntu is pretty clear on the fact that
> they support Upstart, not systemd.

I did not know that. Based on that gnome wants systemd and unity uses
gnome stuff I thought that there is a strong relation between them.

> And lastly, why do you want/need PackageKit? It worked horribly with
> portage, last time I tried some years ago.

Gnome wants that and I do not know why. Maybe I did not pay enough
attention for the USE flag which pulls in it. It requires an action -
just being agile for a moment not having the first coffee today. :S

> If you use GNOME you need to use systemd. Unity is a completely
> different beast (although it uses the same technologies behind the
> curtains), and systemd would be blocked by some Unity stuff, if I
> understand correctly.

I switched back to consolekit to avoid the possible collisions. The
first thing I want is the Unity system working properly. After that
I'm going to ask the guys who manages the unity overlay about
consolekit/systemd stuff.

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