From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E299B1381F3 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 088EDE0A97; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qe0-f41.google.com (mail-qe0-f41.google.com [209.85.128.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEF7EE0A04 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:59:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f41.google.com with SMTP id b4so542433qen.28 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:59:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XTnnaCuis970Gr0wmdiMBx8aRfP72cPkGXI6X7S7L0c=; b=FoavKQJUDG230ZfDxL0pDPORjnLS8fM643VutOPZ3st3UzLp10FvBU/yJbByEsuDJ9 8SbDS18M1SHstPghrfOA44hcQHrJ3OCLlnhIZETvjoWt/Lx7jWGjFecZu/gbVmSEiMIV TkKCGWw5mNtkjgR9iv9f0b/n/RMVVI981WmuKC8Opc31ZNrKDwHzmSqvi4SZuvLuvN/X r8MVKSYJQLN05Jgo1At2kFtH/HNWm/Dz8SgVg23mnIVNrnYBDI14IXEA0rcsmL8bwFg/ uAUUBQSgcaIWVHpQhTTXQfdffnTaH3gu7A9tJBqV+hWilHQgZq6rtQS4dOoDGyVb+RCb N/mA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.21.130 with SMTP id j2mr4405601qab.112.1373993941095; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: sayusi.ando@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.127.74 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:59:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51E43EDE.3090905@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:59:00 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: t6LY9BlzNpsLjb5z1OwhYeDxnso Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOhcyBDc8Ohbnlp?= To: gentoo-user Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: d7c40e75-035f-4c73-958e-0f3226572e8a X-Archives-Hash: a7facd57e60379eed27879c749a30136 On 15 July 2013 21:08, Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wro= te: > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Alan McKinnon = wrote: >> On 15/07/2013 18:44, Andr=C3=A1s Cs=C3=A1nyi wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I would like to get some help regarding networkmanager and KDE. >>> >>> I have installed the networkmanager package on my machine and I also >>> have networkmanagement kde application installed. My problem is that >>> as a user I'm not able to abb network connection using network manager >>> in kde. There is no way to run this application as root and I'm not >>> able to login as root into KDE. > > Is your user included in the plugdev group, as the networkmanager > ebuild recommends? No. It was not part of that group. The install was a part of a bigger set of packages and I haven't read the output. It is my bad. on the other hand, the tutorial why does not mention about anything? I added the the user to that group and the wicd working well. I dropped networkmanager as far as it was possible. It is part of the unity environment. >>> At the moment I don't have any network connection on that machine. If >>> I want it then I have to remove networkmanager package and let the >>> rc-process to handle the networks. >>> >>> Is there a place where that is described how possible to solve this >>> issue? Is there a tutorial about networkmanager where the >>> configuration is described or something like this? What right is >>> needed or something? I have googled a few hours but I haven't found >>> anything. > > Again, try adding your user to the plugdev group. > >>> I appreciate your help! >> >> >> unmerge nm and everything associated with it. >> Comment out all lines in /etc/conf.d/net >> >> emerge wicd with the USE flags of your choice. >> >> All your problems will instantly go away, stay away, and wicd will do >> the right thing always for networking. I promise. > > If the problem is that the user is not in the plugdev group, it will > also happen with wicd, which makes this one of the worsts pieces of > advice I have seen in this list. Which is a lot to say. Yes, it happened the same with wicd as well. After I added the user to the plugdev group everything is working fine. >> networkmanager is a horribly broken piece of shit that per user reports >> never seems to actually work for people. > > It works for me. In all kind of networks in several continents, with > all kind of WEP, WPA, and WPA2 networks, connecting through my > cellphone and obviously with ethernet too. > > Funny you said that Alan, when was the last time you heard about a > problem with NM in the list? I count less than 20 mails *mentioning* > NM in the list in 2013, and none of them are (IIRC) direct problems > with NM. > >> You should not use software like that. > > You should do a little more research before saying something like that > about a piece of software that just works most of the time. I understand Alan feelings. The strange is that Ubuntu use wicd. 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