[gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list

[gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list

[Nilesh Govindrajan]

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Hi,
I yesterday got a ssd to replace my kaput hdd which had no data but os.
Apparently something went wrong while migration, and now everything
disappeared in portage's world list.

So whenever I run depclean it tries to remove all packages. How to fix this?

I don't have data on original hdd now, zeroed it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list

[Bill Kenworthy]

On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 08:41 +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
> Hi, 
> I yesterday got a ssd to replace my kaput hdd which had no data but
> os.
> Apparently something went wrong while migration, and now everything
> disappeared in portage's world list.
> 
> So whenever I run depclean it tries to remove all packages. How to fix
> this?
> 
> I don't have data on original hdd now, zeroed it.
> 

troll ~ # regenworld --help
This script regenerates the portage world file by checking the portage
logfile for all actions that you've done in the past. It ignores any
arguments except --help. It is recommended that you make a backup of
your existing world file (/var/lib/portage/world) before using this
tool.
troll ~ # 

Re: [gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list

[Mark Knecht]

Replying on Kindle. Short suggestion is recreate
/var/lib/portage/world by hand by adding what you know you want
installed.

Good luck,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list

[Frank Peters]

On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 20:34:12 -0700
Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:

> Replying on Kindle. Short suggestion is recreate
> /var/lib/portage/world by hand by adding what you know you want
> installed.

AFAIK, Gentoo does not have a script or an option to back up the
world file and other associated files.

After I finish even a small update, I will run my own script
to copy /var/lib/portage and /var/db/pkg to another drive for
safekeeping.  There may not be much point in doing so.  If my
main HDD fails I will have to reinstall the entire OS, but
just in case of some freak accident that may affect the world
file I will make the backup.

My whole system I will backup once a week, and all very important
new data will be backed up (almost) immediately.

Frank Peters

Re: [gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list

[Daniel Wagener]

On Fri, 6 Jul 2012 00:04:35 -0400
Frank Peters <frank.peters@comcast.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 20:34:12 -0700
> Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Replying on Kindle. Short suggestion is recreate
> > /var/lib/portage/world by hand by adding what you know you want
> > installed.
> 
> AFAIK, Gentoo does not have a script or an option to back up the
> world file and other associated files.

Regenerate world does ring a bell here though… unfortunately I have no internet connection for googling right now
perhaps something with equery  

emaint world however is not what I think of, though it might be worth a try, dunno what it actually does, maybe it will just say it cannot find world

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Re: [gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 20:34:12 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

> Replying on Kindle. Short suggestion is recreate
> /var/lib/portage/world by hand by adding what you know you want
> installed.

That's how I'd do it, except by using emerge -n instead of editing the
file by hand.

emerge -cp
emerge -n any packages in the list you know you want
rinse and repeat


-- 
Neil Bothwick

WYTYSYDG - What you thought you saw, you didn't get.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list

[Mark Knecht]

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
> Replying on Kindle. Short suggestion is recreate
> /var/lib/portage/world by hand by adding what you know you want
> installed.
>
> Good luck,
> Mark

Answering from computer now. A couple of ideas:

1) Copy one of my world files to your /var/lib/portage/world. Attached
at the end. This is for a typical KDE/nvidia desktop machine. Adjust
as you see fit. Run emerge -pvDuN @world and adjust the world file to
match your machines goals.

or...

2) I can't verify Neil's emerge -cp suggestion here as there's nothing
emerge wants to depclean but I suspect it would work fine. (Can't
remember when Neil last suggested something that didn't!) As an
alternative try

eix -Ic

which produces a list of all packages installed. Look for the ones
where the package names are green as they are the packages that should
be in your world file. All the gray ones are dependencies. Use Neil's
emerge -n to add them in.

HTH,
Mark



c2stable ~ # cat /var/lib/portage/world
app-admin/checkrestart
app-admin/logrotate
app-admin/syslog-ng
app-cdr/cdrtools
app-cdr/dvd+rw-tools
app-editors/vim
app-emulation/virtualbox
app-emulation/virtualbox-extpack-oracle
app-emulation/vmware-player
app-forensics/chkrootkit
app-misc/screen
app-portage/eix
app-portage/gentoolkit
app-portage/layman
app-portage/mirrorselect
app-portage/portage-utils
app-text/acroread
dev-util/strace
dev-vcs/git
dev-vcs/subversion
games-fps/nexuiz
kde-base/kde-meta
kde-base/kmix
mail-client/mailx
mail-mta/ssmtp
media-fonts/arphicfonts
media-fonts/bitstream-cyberbit
media-fonts/droid
media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi
media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi
media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo
media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1
media-fonts/font-schumacher-misc
media-fonts/freefont-ttf
media-fonts/freefonts
media-fonts/ipamonafont
media-fonts/ja-ipafonts
media-fonts/liberation-fonts
media-fonts/libertine-ttf
media-fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera
media-fonts/wqy-microhei
media-fonts/wqy-zenhei
media-gfx/imagemagick
media-libs/exiftool
media-libs/mesa
media-sound/alsa-tools
media-sound/alsa-utils
media-video/handbrake
media-video/nvidia-settings
media-video/smplayer::gentoo
media-video/xine-ui
net-analyzer/iftop
net-analyzer/nethogs
net-analyzer/nettop
net-dns/noip-updater
net-fs/samba
net-misc/ntp
net-misc/rdesktop
net-misc/telnet-bsd
net-misc/whois
sys-apps/dstat
sys-apps/hdparm
sys-apps/hwinfo
sys-apps/less
sys-apps/lshw
sys-apps/microcode-ctl
sys-apps/mlocate
sys-apps/portage
sys-apps/smartmontools
sys-boot/grub-static
sys-fs/dosfstools
sys-fs/fuse
sys-fs/mdadm
sys-fs/ncdu
sys-fs/sysfsutils
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:3.2.12
sys-kernel/module-rebuild
sys-power/apcupsd
sys-power/cpufrequtils
sys-power/powertop
sys-process/htop
sys-process/iotop
sys-process/lsof
sys-process/time
sys-process/vixie-cron
virtual/jdk
virtual/jre
virtual/opencl
www-client/firefox
www-client/google-chrome
x11-apps/mesa-progs
x11-apps/xev
x11-apps/xhost
x11-apps/xvidtune
x11-base/xorg-drivers
x11-base/xorg-server
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev
x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev
x11-misc/read-edid
c2stable ~ #

Re: [gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list

[Doug Hunley]

> AFAIK, Gentoo does not have a script or an option to back up the
> world file and other associated files.

This is why I keep an empty world file and use /etc/portage/sets/
exclusively. I'm backing up /etc/portage anyway (package.use and
friends), so it just makes sense to have 'world' in there ;)
-- 
Douglas J Hunley (doug.hunley@gmail.com)
Twitter: @hunleyd                                               Web:
douglasjhunley.com
G+: http://goo.gl/sajR3

Re: [gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list

[Nilesh Govindrajan]

On 07/06/2012 09:00 AM, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 08:41 +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
>> Hi, 
>> I yesterday got a ssd to replace my kaput hdd which had no data but
>> os.
>> Apparently something went wrong while migration, and now everything
>> disappeared in portage's world list.
>>
>> So whenever I run depclean it tries to remove all packages. How to fix
>> this?
>>
>> I don't have data on original hdd now, zeroed it.
>>
> 
> troll ~ # regenworld --help
> This script regenerates the portage world file by checking the portage
> logfile for all actions that you've done in the past. It ignores any
> arguments except --help. It is recommended that you make a backup of
> your existing world file (/var/lib/portage/world) before using this
> tool.
> troll ~ # 
> 
> 
> 
> 

This fixed the problem. It generated some extra packages, but I fixed them.
@everyone, thanks for your replies. For some reason the this reply
wasn't sent earlier and got saved as draft.

--
Nilesh Govindrajan
http://nileshgr.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list

[Claudio Roberto França Pereira]

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Doug Hunley <doug.hunley@gmail.com> wrote:
>> AFAIK, Gentoo does not have a script or an option to back up the
>> world file and other associated files.
>
> This is why I keep an empty world file and use /etc/portage/sets/
> exclusively. I'm backing up /etc/portage anyway (package.use and
> friends), so it just makes sense to have 'world' in there ;)

How would you do that? I'm currently using ~amd64 and can't yet use
sets for some reason.

> --
> Douglas J Hunley (doug.hunley@gmail.com)
> Twitter: @hunleyd                                               Web:
> douglasjhunley.com
> G+: http://goo.gl/sajR3
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list

[Alex Schuster]

Claudio Roberto França Pereira writes:

> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Doug Hunley <doug.hunley@gmail.com>
> wrote:

> > This is why I keep an empty world file and use /etc/portage/sets/
> > exclusively. I'm backing up /etc/portage anyway (package.use and
> > friends), so it just makes sense to have 'world' in there ;)
> 
> How would you do that? I'm currently using ~amd64 and can't yet use
> sets for some reason.

Then you probably need portage 2.2 for this. Which will never ever become
stable it seems, but I'm using it just fine for three years now. You have
to put this into /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords:

<sys-apps/portage-9999 ~*

Or just enable a specific version, and put that in your local overlay, if
you don't trust the updates which happen every few days.

Is emerge @preserved-rebuild (with FEATURES=preserve-libs) also a 2.2
feature? I like this most, I no longer need to use revdep-rebuild. I
always considered having to use it a bug, fixing broken things after
breaking them, instead of preventing breakage.

	Wonko

Portage 2.2 - when will it go stable?? WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list

[Tanstaafl]

On 2012-07-11 12:17 PM, Alex Schuster <wonko@wonkology.org> wrote:
> Then you probably need portage 2.2 for this. Which will never ever become
> stable it seems,

Can anyone comment on *why* it is taking so long? It is beginning to 
border on ridiculous - if it is ready (which I seem to recall lots of 
references to 'why are you still using 2.1??), why not just stabilize it 
already? I try really hard not to run anything unstable unless I 
absolutely have to (for obvious reasons)...

Re: Portage 2.2 - when will it go stable?? WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list

[Jeff Horelick]

On 11 July 2012 14:23, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@libertytrek.org> wrote:
> On 2012-07-11 12:17 PM, Alex Schuster <wonko@wonkology.org> wrote:
>>
>> Then you probably need portage 2.2 for this. Which will never ever become
>> stable it seems,
>
>
> Can anyone comment on *why* it is taking so long? It is beginning to border
> on ridiculous - if it is ready (which I seem to recall lots of references to
> 'why are you still using 2.1??), why not just stabilize it already? I try
> really hard not to run anything unstable unless I absolutely have to (for
> obvious reasons)...
>

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=210077   <--- This is why it's
taking so long, there are still MANY bugs that should really be fixed.

Part of why it's taking so long for those bugs to be fixed is because
programmatic sets and preserve-libs aren't a priority, but things like
supporting new EAPIs and such are a far bigger priority.

Re: [gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list

[Doug Hunley]

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Alex Schuster <wonko@wonkology.org> wrote:
>> How would you do that? I'm currently using ~amd64 and can't yet use
>> sets for some reason.
>
> Then you probably need portage 2.2 for this. Which will never ever become
> stable it seems, but I'm using it just fine for three years now.

Yes, 2.2 is needed. And same here. Using it forever and no issues

>
> Is emerge @preserved-rebuild (with FEATURES=preserve-libs) also a 2.2
> feature? I like this most, I no longer need to use revdep-rebuild. I
> always considered having to use it a bug, fixing broken things after
> breaking them, instead of preventing breakage.

Indeed, also a 2.2 thing and the biggest reason I use it honestly

-- 
Douglas J Hunley (doug.hunley@gmail.com)
Twitter: @hunleyd                                               Web:
douglasjhunley.com
G+: http://goo.gl/sajR3

Re: [gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list

[Alex Schuster]

Doug Hunley writes:

> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Alex Schuster <wonko@wonkology.org>
> wrote:
> >> How would you do that? I'm currently using ~amd64 and can't yet use
> >> sets for some reason.
> >
> > Then you probably need portage 2.2 for this. Which will never ever
> > become stable it seems, but I'm using it just fine for three years
> > now.
> 
> Yes, 2.2 is needed. And same here. Using it forever and no issues

Well, I _had_ some issues with that when the preserved-libs feature was
new, a few times after an emerge @preserved-rebuild nothing changed, and
emerge @preserved-libs would emerge the same stuff over and over again. I
had to delete /var/lib/portage/preserved_libs_registry manually. That
was in 2009, all was fine since then. But I fear that one day one of the
many many portage updates might introduce a nasty
bug, and portage will be broken. The chance may be small, but then
there already were over 150 portage updates in my case.

> > Is emerge @preserved-rebuild (with FEATURES=preserve-libs) also a 2.2
> > feature? I like this most, I no longer need to use revdep-rebuild. I
> > always considered having to use it a bug, fixing broken things after
> > breaking them, instead of preventing breakage.
> 
> Indeed, also a 2.2 thing and the biggest reason I use it honestly

Me too. revdep-rebuild reports stuff that is broken, and I do not want to
have anything like that on my systems. What if I need such a broken
application before revdep-rebuild has fixed it? For a large package this
might take hours. And what if I run into a build problem?

Using the preserved-libs feature I feel much safer.

	Wonko