From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-150832-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E151381F3 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41BBAE0D30; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:46:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f48.google.com (mail-vb0-f48.google.com [209.85.212.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3689DE0D02 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f48.google.com with SMTP id w16so6835484vbf.21 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 15:46:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=aRXmBOZ/Sz/z86hupgS0xHxciPGTTD8/u+K9Ov2U/Uo=; b=kaPtgYG/WGVir6f04vaKbhi5eUhNvtL+LlIo/y9rVj4cMQ8EuJe+uCDVzf5WUbypN1 dkLam3CSWiYqWI6LcdScBq8c7YlCcX3DQSPJc3y+vuTxp86wSCQhKX/IlwUko7neHA/I uoUj2PUp2tKqAYKpor3p38QnIAJ1DTcVc6OwSLLpxYilnIB42RpyLXKYj+y9BGwnSpbs gzHVAREtfE8AKFi5FlWS7farWDnS2lxtsJ/OW9dBx9KxF5h6GIk2cxaU7suCrpv50pkP 90JhtUIyXkBtumQfDbaH88zLsqmdddxA8NhJd48SZm6W/Qc/xNcr7l5mAqtJVmWRRsQR YYwA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.221.47.193 with SMTP id ut1mr3159795vcb.8.1379630773384; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 15:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.108.40 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 15:46:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <52389754.60700@xunil.at> References: <CAN0CFw1nGVZxJGGsq4TZidEPuyLDkcD0oYRDOOfNzFFM2vQ-tg@mail.gmail.com> <52382CA4.6090407@libertytrek.org> <CAN0CFw1jTNV4DZ21gTLHo9wCe=6LTkpXU92hpzhiw_Za3L=Ksw@mail.gmail.com> <523872B7.5040302@orlitzky.com> <523877D3.9020109@libertytrek.org> <5238848D.6050703@orlitzky.com> <52388A9E.2050709@libertytrek.org> <52388C4E.5010804@orlitzky.com> <523892C3.8090605@libertytrek.org> <52389754.60700@xunil.at> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 18:46:13 -0400 Message-ID: <CALxYTP5u7WVgueLsn+FhV+OkVV8TWGFvWbM09G-iFsyWR3gmSQ@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS From: Douglas J Hunley <doug.hunley@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113392ec2b3e5404e6c452b0 X-Archives-Salt: 56d2c0d8-ab2f-46b8-8312-b4fba31702d3 X-Archives-Hash: 235834e1593cb980a0671a53ad3fc63a --001a113392ec2b3e5404e6c452b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger <lists@xunil.at>wrote: > I have to set up a server w/ 8x 1TB in about 2 weeks and consider ZFS as > well, at least for data. So root-fs would go onto 2x 1TB hdds with > conventional partitioning and something like ext4. > > 6x 1TB would be available for data ... on one hand for a file-server > part ... on the other hand for VMs based on KVM. > 1TB drives are right on the border of switching from RAIDZ to RAIDZ2. You'll see people argue for both sides at this size, but the 'saner default' would be to use RAIDZ2. You're going to lose storage space, but gain an extra parity drive (think RAID6). Consumer grade hard drives are /going/ to fail during a resilver (Murphy's Law) and that extra parity drive is going to save your bacon. I create -- Douglas J Hunley (doug.hunley@gmail.com) Twitter: @hunleyd Web: douglasjhunley.com G+: http://goo.gl/sajR3 --001a113392ec2b3e5404e6c452b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger <span dir=3D"ltr"><= ;<a href=3D"mailto:lists@xunil.at" target=3D"_blank">lists@xunil.at</a>>= </span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=3D":1rn" style=3D"overflow:hidden">I= have to set up a server w/ 8x 1TB in about 2 weeks and consider ZFS as<br> well, at least for data. So root-fs would go onto 2x 1TB hdds with<br> conventional partitioning and something like ext4.<br> <br> 6x 1TB would be available for data ... on one hand for a file-server<br> part ... on the other hand for VMs based on KVM.</div></blockquote></div><d= iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div>1TB drives are right on the border of sw= itching from RAIDZ to RAIDZ2. You'll see people argue for both sides at= this size, but the 'saner default' would be to use RAIDZ2. You'= ;re going to lose storage space, but gain an extra parity drive (think RAID= 6). Consumer grade hard drives are /going/ to fail during a resilver (Murph= y's Law) and that extra parity drive is going to save your bacon.</div> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">I create=C2= =A0<br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Douglas J Hunley (<a href=3D"mai= lto:doug.hunley@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">doug.hunley@gmail.com</a>)<br>= Twitter: @hunleyd =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Web: <a href=3D"http://douglasjhunley.com" = target=3D"_blank">douglasjhunley.com</a><br> G+: <a href=3D"http://goo.gl/sajR3" target=3D"_blank">http://goo.gl/sajR3</= a> </div></div> --001a113392ec2b3e5404e6c452b0--