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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought
From: Doug Hunley <doug.hunley@gmail.com>
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On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 19:20, David W Noon <dwnoon@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:26:40 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote about Re:
> [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:01:24 +0100
>> David W Noon <dwnoon@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> [snip]
>> > With the pending changes to udev scripts, you could well need /var
>> > -- and anything else -- before udev starts. =C2=A0So it is in the same
>> > category as /usr.
>>
>> Maybe, maybe not.
>>
>> However, no-one apart from you is even suggesting such a thing. For my
>> part I'm going to ignore that possibility and concentrate on those
>> things that are being seriously suggested.
>
> The Gentoo developers have been discussing just that. =C2=A0The reason is
> that many of the daemons that can be started by udev scripts require
> work files on /var, so we could well need /var mounted too.

But wait, that's what having /var/run being a link to /run was all
about. This problem is supposed to be *solved* already, damnit
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