From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA215158020 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2022 08:01:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD807E09BC; Mon, 26 Dec 2022 08:01:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf1-x12b.google.com (mail-lf1-x12b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D55EE0978 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2022 08:01:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-x12b.google.com with SMTP id m6so4738051lfj.11 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2022 00:01:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=pdiX+KP1SCI0+jkneAPqKhvJn+fyTJYDMRyrToaXK5U=; b=M+1xfvRxbQ8BvC5s3ckiXjrEyaD6iXJ2UCGIK4QZvxXZAtT9NFoIVJ8zesKHwKT6p1 Kwxi6anf4KVfcoMJn7ljrhSizjJ5XLAWEnDmu2WnxkNfYMmgx2vl5N/88di2ZD3fD5+M 6F3bwxyZypTEHBV2hs0cbkYje5Xzg4fUFxqLapgsptw+7/LUJI7xSBSzCNXTMbAZWrgy 583yFYJkdyT4US1I480WfXypEsFmwktAW82j/chzfouRkFBvtux+amTlkz1DcMUfYtEr 2Pfk9tabX9HUHQKkPHVw2l3gl8frPGXQzq+Tfr3P/33EH/YAvJBiPbGM+AEGJa1sn+bF iF0Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=pdiX+KP1SCI0+jkneAPqKhvJn+fyTJYDMRyrToaXK5U=; b=K7hdMPo081Dq350dGV7OPNHs1B7FCAX4LQReC9iMdz6UZC4aozpZ/eNv28KcWwInvx Ba5R3Js47jbTisFvI65tCHDkqckahSTBe/5RZ7/6iuljOVMlGLebGBuEnBV9nNAzqMj4 e+Sv9Ay+Z8wUkV6L7JRYqS8kYXD/3oy1NV5W06h8FslMR2c7uhGkJ6bWN9XhN1w+j5td wkjKLA+AEWVtUkPxDfhfPe6I1mSG6IQWi4rebx7tbvlUCbz0pl0ji7YbH22UI5AMD2U4 LBqRhOXfylQEya55HVBEHIra83ojqXGI8m9Fe69FE28ZoNu095m456elLelidGjyQPC9 C//g== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kr+Eraw1nCgPCWK1N6LBkjol/6gHrWQGnDpgOLzOfS/zXxdvcXC cnTsar7Xg1/1HJJU6a96UPKs25TGJZVaBcqCyZcfdBrH+IU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXsmjKb2jFzbQBbMtpZq1kZCnjdf9gyDoFXwsmrsCnQ7WTi8od3/2iJ4j6NXL8yXFOjH9utEmIeuEXC9CiNTlm0= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:4c0b:0:b0:4a2:9248:e276 with SMTP id t11-20020ac24c0b000000b004a29248e276mr743836lfq.605.1672041711908; Mon, 26 Dec 2022 00:01:51 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0a10c428-94f1-6112-4d88-c97143f9564d@gmail.com> <7a8384d4-4213-b2df-df28-2b56a8b2d030@youngman.org.uk> <8d058bd7-6c91-aa1a-6e2f-133cf0642f81@gmail.com> <60151c63-4247-09b0-dc0d-a5bfa7c1296e@youngman.org.uk> <716c56d5-6c74-142d-ae89-7cb678b0fb56@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <716c56d5-6c74-142d-ae89-7cb678b0fb56@gmail.com> From: David Rosenbaum Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2022 03:01:40 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000049bd9005f0b68c87" X-Archives-Salt: 4cbd0662-042b-4f02-b5d2-18ac8dd0ba01 X-Archives-Hash: c327df2f2f80c5fba879388c621cc1f0 --00000000000049bd9005f0b68c87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Need link Dave On Tue, Dec 20, 2022, 1:52 AM Dale wrote: > Wols Lists wrote: > > On 18/12/2022 22:11, Dale wrote: > >> Wol wrote: > >>> On 18/12/2022 18:59, Dale wrote: > >>>> Since this is local, I just use rsync to do my backups. I did have to > >>>> change the options a bit. It seems TrueNAS doesn't like some of the > >>>> permissions or something. > >>> > >>> Are you running the rsync daemon on the NAS? I'm probably teaching > >>> grandma to suck eggs, but that massively reduces the need for network > >>> traffic. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Wol > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> I mount the NAS on my Gentoo rig. I mount it under /mnt. Then I run > >> rsync and copy from the source to the mount point for the NAS. I may > >> could go the other way but never thought about doing it that way. Kinda > >> sounds backwards to me but I dunno. ;-) > >> > > Sounds to me like you're doing it all wrong either way ... > > > > What is *supposed* to happen is that you have the daemon running on > > one machine and the client on the other - doesn't matter which. > > > > Then the client tells the daemon what files are to be copied, THE TWO > > COMPARE CHECKSUMS, and only the stuff that fails the checksum is > > copied. So if you're doing an incremental backup, network usage and > > writes are kept to a minimum. > > > > I tell people to an in-place backup if they're running on a snapshot > > setup, because again it only writes stuff that has actually changed. > > > > Cheers, > > Wol > > > > > > > Do you have a link to the proper way to do it? I don't copy to a > different machine often so my current method may be the problem. Maybe > the way you mention will work much better, even a little better would be > nice. ;-) > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > --00000000000049bd9005f0b68c87 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Need link

= Dave

On Tue, Dec 20, 2022, 1:52 AM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
Wols Lists wrote:
> On 18/12/2022 22:11, Dale wrote:
>> Wol wrote:
>>> On 18/12/2022 18:59, Dale wrote:
>>>> Since this is local, I just use rsync to do my backups.=C2= =A0 I did have to
>>>> change the options a bit.=C2=A0 It seems TrueNAS doesn'= ;t like some of the
>>>> permissions or something.
>>>
>>> Are you running the rsync daemon on the NAS? I'm probably = teaching
>>> grandma to suck eggs, but that massively reduces the need for = network
>>> traffic.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Wol
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> I mount the NAS on my Gentoo rig.=C2=A0 I mount it under /mnt.=C2= =A0 Then I run
>> rsync and copy from the source to the mount point for the NAS.=C2= =A0 I may
>> could go the other way but never thought about doing it that way.= =C2=A0 Kinda
>> sounds backwards to me but I dunno. ;-)
>>
> Sounds to me like you're doing it all wrong either way ...
>
> What is *supposed* to happen is that you have the daemon running on > one machine and the client on the other - doesn't matter which. >
> Then the client tells the daemon what files are to be copied, THE TWO<= br> > COMPARE CHECKSUMS, and only the stuff that fails the checksum is
> copied. So if you're doing an incremental backup, network usage an= d
> writes are kept to a minimum.
>
> I tell people to an in-place backup if they're running on a snapsh= ot
> setup, because again it only writes stuff that has actually changed. >
> Cheers,
> Wol
>
>


Do you have a link to the proper way to do it?=C2=A0 I don't copy to a<= br> different machine often so my current method may be the problem.=C2=A0 Mayb= e
the way you mention will work much better, even a little better would be nice. ;-)

Dale

:-)=C2=A0 :-)=C2=A0

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