[gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG

[gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG

[Joseph]

Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical.
I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly. 

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Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG

[Michael Mol]

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On 03/16/2013 11:00 PM, Joseph wrote:
> Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical.
> I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly.

I used Bluefish...around a decade ago. But it's in Portage.


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Re: [gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG

[Joseph]

On 03/16/13 23:10, Michael Mol wrote:
>On 03/16/2013 11:00 PM, Joseph wrote:
>> Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical.
>> I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly.
>
>I used Bluefish...around a decade ago. But it's in Portage.
>

Not user friendly either.

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Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG

[Michael Mol]

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On 03/16/2013 11:39 PM, Joseph wrote:
> On 03/16/13 23:10, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On 03/16/2013 11:00 PM, Joseph wrote:
>>> Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical.
>>> I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly.
>>
>> I used Bluefish...around a decade ago. But it's in Portage.
>>
> 
> Not user friendly either.
> 

Define "user-friendly". When I used Bluefish, I recalled it being
similar to Netscape Navigator Gold's bundled HTML editor...which is to
say it supported editing individual pages only, and had no concept of
JavaScript, JScript, VBScript or CSS.

Better than define "user-friendly"...how about describing what you're
trying to do? How large a project is this?


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Re: [gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG

[Joseph]

On 03/16/13 23:44, Michael Mol wrote:
>On 03/16/2013 11:39 PM, Joseph wrote:
>> On 03/16/13 23:10, Michael Mol wrote:
>>> On 03/16/2013 11:00 PM, Joseph wrote:
>>>> Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical.
>>>> I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly.
>>>
>>> I used Bluefish...around a decade ago. But it's in Portage.
>>>
>>
>> Not user friendly either.
>>
>
>Define "user-friendly". When I used Bluefish, I recalled it being
>similar to Netscape Navigator Gold's bundled HTML editor...which is to
>say it supported editing individual pages only, and had no concept of
>JavaScript, JScript, VBScript or CSS.
>
>Better than define "user-friendly"...how about describing what you're
>trying to do? How large a project is this?

I wanted something like Nvu, I used long, time ago WYSIWYG
I don't have time to play with those tags.  I just want to type in some text, change the font size if I have to, place some picture beside it; save it an upload.
I bluefish I was presented with pure html coding :-/

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Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG

[Joseph]

On 03/16/13 22:07, Joseph wrote:
>On 03/16/13 23:44, Michael Mol wrote:
>>On 03/16/2013 11:39 PM, Joseph wrote:
>>> On 03/16/13 23:10, Michael Mol wrote:
>>>> On 03/16/2013 11:00 PM, Joseph wrote:
>>>>> Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical.
>>>>> I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly.
>>>>
>>>> I used Bluefish...around a decade ago. But it's in Portage.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not user friendly either.
>>>
>>
>>Define "user-friendly". When I used Bluefish, I recalled it being
>>similar to Netscape Navigator Gold's bundled HTML editor...which is to
>>say it supported editing individual pages only, and had no concept of
>>JavaScript, JScript, VBScript or CSS.
>>
>>Better than define "user-friendly"...how about describing what you're
>>trying to do? How large a project is this?
>
>I wanted something like Nvu, I used long, time ago WYSIWYG
>I don't have time to play with those tags.  I just want to type in some text, change the font size if I have to, place some picture beside it; save it an upload.
>I bluefish I was presented with pure html coding :-/

There is an application called kompozer but not in portage.

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Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG

[Stroller]

On 17 March 2013, at 04:07, Joseph wrote:
>> ...
>> Better than define "user-friendly"...how about describing what you're
>> trying to do? How large a project is this?
> 
> I wanted something like Nvu, I used long, time ago WYSIWYG
> I don't have time to play with those tags.  I just want to type in some text, change the font size if I have to, place some picture beside it; save it an upload.
> I bluefish I was presented with pure html coding :-/

Can't you export to HTML from the word-processor in Open Office? (LibreOffice, AbiWord, whatever).

HTML seems generally unsuited for WYSIWYG, as different browsers will render differently. That may not be a problem for the kind of really simple stuff you have in mind, but I guess there may not be much development in this area.

Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG

[Mick]

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On Sunday 17 Mar 2013 07:35:56 Stroller wrote:
> On 17 March 2013, at 04:07, Joseph wrote:
> >> ...
> >> Better than define "user-friendly"...how about describing what you're
> >> trying to do? How large a project is this?
> > 
> > I wanted something like Nvu, I used long, time ago WYSIWYG
> > I don't have time to play with those tags.  I just want to type in some
> > text, change the font size if I have to, place some picture beside it;
> > save it an upload. I bluefish I was presented with pure html coding :-/
> 
> Can't you export to HTML from the word-processor in Open Office?
> (LibreOffice, AbiWord, whatever).
> 
> HTML seems generally unsuited for WYSIWYG, as different browsers will
> render differently. That may not be a problem for the kind of really
> simple stuff you have in mind, but I guess there may not be much
> development in this area.
> 
> Stroller.

Bluefish has tab autocompletion for tags ... type "<" to open a tag and you 
can choose from the dropdown.

KDE3 had Quanta Plus, but I don't think it was ever ported to KDE4.

Kate offers autocompletion in CSS at least, once you start typing the tag.  
You can have a browser open to check the results of your edits as an WYSIWYG 
solution.

Otherwise, you may want to try Komodo-edit-bin:

  https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171944

(I've just added an ebuild for the latest 8.0.0 version.)
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG

[Joseph]

On 03/17/13 07:35, Stroller wrote:
>
>On 17 March 2013, at 04:07, Joseph wrote:
>>> ...
>>> Better than define "user-friendly"...how about describing what you're
>>> trying to do? How large a project is this?
>>
>> I wanted something like Nvu, I used long, time ago WYSIWYG
>> I don't have time to play with those tags.  I just want to type in some text, change the font size if I have to, place some picture beside it; save it an upload.
>> I bluefish I was presented with pure html coding :-/
>
>Can't you export to HTML from the word-processor in Open Office? (LibreOffice, AbiWord, whatever).
>
>HTML seems generally unsuited for WYSIWYG, as different browsers will render differently. That may not be a problem for the kind of really simple stuff you have in mind, but I guess there may not be much development in this area.
>
>Stroller.

Yes, OpenOffice exports to HTML but I'm modifying an existing document and it looks strange.
I've in stalled on Windows XP "kompozer" as it is not available on Gentoo and it works similar like Nvu.

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Joseph

[gentoo-user] Re: HTML editor WYSIWYG

[Grant Edwards]

On 2013-03-17, Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:

> Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical.
> I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly. 

There's no such thing as a WYSIWYG HTML editor, since WYG depends on
the redering engine, display size, and various browser settings...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: HTML editor WYSIWYG

[Andrew Hoffman]

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sublimetext is nice, not OSS though:/
-Andy


On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 2013-03-17, Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical.
> > I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly.
>
> There's no such thing as a WYSIWYG HTML editor, since WYG depends on
> the redering engine, display size, and various browser settings...
>
> --
> Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! Clear the
> laundromat!!
>                                   at               This whirl-o-matic just
> had
>                               gmail.com            a nuclear meltdown!!
>
>
>

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Re: [Bulk] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: HTML editor WYSIWYG

[Kevin Chadwick]

> sublimetext is nice, not OSS though

Netbeans is quite useful for html5. Also chrome and firefox have good
developer options so you can try changes and see them without a refresh.
When I load my pages in a browser they are fine but in every WYSIWYG
editor I have tried they are desimated to unreadable, though I do
do width scaling without javascript ;-).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: HTML editor WYSIWYG

[Peter Humphrey]

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On Monday 18 March 2013 14:10:40 Grant Edwards wrote:

> There's no such thing as a WYSIWYG HTML editor

Depends. Kompozer is built on the Firefox tree, so if Firefox gives you what 
you want to see, Kompozer will be WYSIWYG..

On the other hand, its HTML is not pure, the application is buggy and it 
hasn't been updated for a year or two. I made extensive use of it while 
developing my choir's website, but mostly for its very useful help with CSS.

If I were starting out again, which I may do soon, I'd want both Kompozer 
and Bluefish to hand.

HTH.

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Peter

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: HTML editor WYSIWYG

[Mick]

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On Tuesday 19 Mar 2013 01:14:23 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday 18 March 2013 14:10:40 Grant Edwards wrote:
> > There's no such thing as a WYSIWYG HTML editor
> 
> Depends. Kompozer is built on the Firefox tree, so if Firefox gives you
> what you want to see, Kompozer will be WYSIWYG..
> 
> On the other hand, its HTML is not pure, the application is buggy and it
> hasn't been updated for a year or two. I made extensive use of it while
> developing my choir's website, but mostly for its very useful help with
> CSS.
> 
> If I were starting out again, which I may do soon, I'd want both Kompozer
> and Bluefish to hand.

Anyone knows what happened to Quanta+ and it was ever ported to KDE4?

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Regards,
Mick

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