From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RF8oe-0001UE-KV for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:18:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2221321C216; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:18:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A870F21C0DC for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:17:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywm19 with SMTP id 19so1830159ywm.40 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:17:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=fprMvzuRPC+PIAovnCCVU023Ez+4q366Gh4VkAM/y0A=; b=gbngqd7qmnsOIczc8OQ71bNffaOcbimekkif0YqZodl63vG0/35kxlFLHdN4RKDUrd Ny+/lxvEoWUG0M1i0PFYDFjYhWcnNByZUFjREmfJg+3Ygk6NYS4crRsVt6moHUHVL6Ba rJz5YSZULDRgOqd3ixL3OnNzDbRPeOW5OThqc= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.182.67 with SMTP id n43mr226868yhm.104.1318702644328; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.9.100 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:17:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111015174306.GD3088@solfire> References: <20111015093304.7ad84101@acme7.acmenet> <4E997C00.3080501@genestate.com> <20111015191131.6ec03bd3@toxic.dbnet> <20111015174306.GD3088@solfire> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 22:17:24 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dennis Ritchie From: Andrew Tchernoivanov To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3056396fadf6c904af5a62c1 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: f42de34a05eb6437895acda840ec6df0 --20cf3056396fadf6c904af5a62c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > i don't think its about money, but about popularity. everybody knows > who steve jobs is, thats why his death makes front page. > average joe doesn't know ritchie and doesn't care about C. Back at my University only very small number of people knows, who's Richie (although GNU/Linux systems are very popular) and what he had done. And it's very painful to hear from a person with Apple laptop phrases like "C? UNIX? I don't like UNIX." Nothing must be forgotten. People must know persons who made technologies t= o what they are now. On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 9:43 PM, wrote: > Jonas de Buhr [11-10-15 19:16]: > > Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:47:07 +0300 > > schrieb Nikos Chantziaras : > > > > > On 10/15/2011 03:26 PM, Matt Harrison wrote: > > > > On 15/10/2011 12:33, luis jure wrote: > > > > > > > > I have spent the last few hours trying to explain his work to the > > > > folks here who were so saddened by Steve Jobs passing. While it is > > > > very sad on both counts, I am getting annoyed by the opinion that > > > > "Richie might have helped popularise C, but SJ invented the > > > > iPhone...which is 10x more useful". > > > > > > If you're not insanely rich, nobody cares if you die. It's not about > > > how much you contributed to human society. It's about how much money > > > you made. > > > > i don't think its about money, but about popularity. everybody knows > > who steve jobs is, thats why his death makes front page. > > average joe doesn't know ritchie and doesn't care about C. > > > > It is, as Dennis Ritchies said: > > "Unix is simple and coherent, but it takes a genius =E2=80=93 or at an= y rate a > programmer =E2=80=93 to understand and appreciate the simplicity." > > (Source:" > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Unix-ist-einfach-zum-Tode-von-Denn= is-Ritchie-1360366.html)o > > > > > --=20 =D0=A1 =D1=83=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5=D0=BC, =D0=A7=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2 =D0=90= =D0=BD=D0=B4=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B9 --20cf3056396fadf6c904af5a62c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=KOI8-U Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> i don't think its about money, but about popularity. everybod= y knows
> who steve jobs is, thats why his death makes front page.> average joe doesn't know ritchie and doesn't care about C.

Back at my University only very small number of people = knows, who's Richie 
(although GNU/Linux systems are very popu= lar) and what he had done. 

And it's very = painful to hear from a person with Apple laptop phrases like "C? = UNIX? I don't like UNIX."

Nothing must be forgotten. People must know persons who= made technologies to what they are now.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 9:43 PM, <meino.cramer@gmx.de> wrote:
Jonas de Buhr <jonas.de.buhr@gmx.net> [11-10-15 19:16]:
> Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:47:07 +0300 > schrieb Nikos Chantziaras <realn= c@arcor.de>:
>
> > On 10/15/2011 03:26 PM, Matt Harrison wrote:
> > > On 15/10/2011 12:33, luis jure wrote:
> > >
> > > I have spent the last few hours trying to explain his work t= o the
> > > folks here who were so saddened by Steve Jobs passing. While= it is
> > > very sad on both counts, I am getting annoyed by the opinion= that
> > > "Richie might have helped popularise C, but SJ invented= the
> > > iPhone...which is 10x more useful".
> >
> > If you're not insanely rich, nobody cares if you die.  I= t's not about
> > how much you contributed to human society.  It's about h= ow much money
> > you made.
>
> i don't think its about money, but about popularity. everybody kno= ws
> who steve jobs is, thats why his death makes front page.
> average joe doesn't know ritchie and doesn't care about C.
>

It is, as Dennis Ritchies said:

   "Unix is simple and coherent, but it takes a genius &nda= sh; or at any rate a
   programmer – to understand and appreciate the simplicit= y."

(Source:"http://= www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Unix-ist-einfach-zum-Tode-von-Dennis-Ritchi= e-1360366.html)o







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