From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF3613800E for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 13:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 40463E0466; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 13:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f53.google.com (mail-vb0-f53.google.com [209.85.212.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0A8E02CB for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 13:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbbfc26 with SMTP id fc26so3066113vbb.40 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 06:04:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=XPWu42PSp+ppM2N0lPVSsD7y2A6ekUuM7MhnbINGO6s=; b=ewAs9Dmxa6AiNLu7L1b/aQeMzCD77UtYC0DwCuLd2JLky5eU4f/KUft9fINseOQpBW sEv94FOAPXWGn2rHM6Ca/zq3h6ydJ6+wxN/sEOuFaw1dE8uF8FsgWFBn/0kxPOxbX0sf GD8KfILRGETcR4//44uOHc8Me91ikUPukmZeBvHy29FL+cRepV6V4i6TomFyiHzJOtXs 1vsH1XqKD4St2ll22kYtCHlmK4nrqRDaMJrVdkAkLCq0Zs0+z67h9Ml1wSTYcQwfLWlb oGMfIu2O/oAOr4a4enjlabRKYd6M0fi1P/5K/Lwnjy08iP41/i63T9F6e+K8v9TBCeTi iCHA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.24.227 with SMTP id x3mr5679468vdf.68.1344776653260; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 06:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.172.66 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 06:04:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120812122535.GB18333@acm.acm> References: <20120812095211.GA2435@waltdnes.org> <20120812122535.GB18333@acm.acm> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:04:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Straight from the horse's mouth From: Jorge Almeida To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: ebd7c2f3-8466-4885-aa06-fefd6dee0898 X-Archives-Hash: 0236ad034227187fce50efae6d0f892f On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 11:30:51AM +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote: > >> I'm confused about the xorg stuff in the WiKi. It mentions the evdev driver as >> critical, but at the Notes at the bottom you say "evdev need udev to be >> built". Can you clarify this? > > For some X11 configs (notably mine) it was necessary explicitly to > configure evdev in xorg.conf. This used to work with, e.g., Gnome2. At > a later stage, evdev suddenly required the udev USE flag to build. :-( > This was taken account of in part of the web page, but not in the xorg > description (which is now wrong). I feared so. I read somewhere this is because xorg now asks udev about the availability of evdev (writing from memory, can't find the reference). It seems to me an artifice to force usage of udev. Are these people all in league with each other? > > The change to evdev prompted me to stop using an mdev system, since I > anticipated not having enough time to keep it working. (New job, and > such like). The way certain developers are trying to force the world and > his dog to use a rigid Red Hat specified configuration, I might be > changing my time priorities. > Is it possible at all to drop udev and still use xorg? Are the old (i.e., pre-evdev) drivers still usable? Even if they are, I bet all future developments will go the same way: force uniformity and submission. Jorge Almeida