From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55324138350 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 20:50:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D43E7E0A52; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 20:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-il1-x12a.google.com (mail-il1-x12a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8808EE09F2 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 20:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-il1-x12a.google.com with SMTP id f82so14764943ilh.8 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 13:50:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VM1o3fQ9Cx0Okr9x/BplYXO86qjgdwOh9kPySWPXwMA=; b=ahhFIlRoHE0lsIOIlMrLMOzfwh17YRAQM2YZsc6gipTl71R2wBC+hIJVNI1oCHh/Oa 55I0hYFmXvSdd0H4mGAUDTKQyArZ0U4GLFrSpSws+rei7ucno6XutjXKwcRKHrog/ulr jHRi+/IJbPlQ4TGVW4GHcMl6PxBmf/7QanNkQ5VuooRdD5BK4otMJNnfHColm6NbDlmF huGJj0lk+165zpEYokUgrCR5KO7YDIFkbpsJlffl3X6jTqRu+b3yNd4aQJAuHhOSF/Co usfJYkKIMma/jq25m+GOjCnApgvhTAvu/o4fYVB/UNyyPVwrUhdA5KdUnxUGUYmfD7kB 3LeQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VM1o3fQ9Cx0Okr9x/BplYXO86qjgdwOh9kPySWPXwMA=; b=CqcIb5P086JvTwpW79hyT6vXsgrdSiwa+kC4nIXAXRGIRdhqqaRqYsAnkSjMOQX1T8 JycsoLZzIqtQeEGzCny+qaAI/jAk8tOZhUHV+p0KB08dl/hyz8oal7ZN3s1UIjj7XykF mDkkl+kaw/BOhGsTE4XwW0/yqRFr7LJXrqd3vFckc2ZxiEYXMX6tQOUBDN2E+ze/bYXA Gd3qZ2s6SdHIx4AWOxFuvPPftfw4HC4WT7C3kPJZmL7cgt5QKQsu2fYwm2Hy8mpcwvID zDylpXtY9myWiEkCesuHd8GhZue5unb2LNN7ixJZzmBt/uWLtxZdS2j78kCtm9oX8Yr7 Nyug== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PubzSfAVCLle7QakUlN/HzAy5EwAjHTkrhrxCvWIH8Yuw8ctYxp5 MSrX8Afc+SjULDGjIT79coPSQgp4kjgkuFucaJcW7w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJUBn/B0QJocGhWtrMZiZ6QXTQqHp1E+g8b5gEoX4lb8MmFwGJ15Is/59vcZTkkx0v9io4lLsQ779QS+P6VqyU= X-Received: by 2002:a92:ddca:: with SMTP id d10mr11978142ilr.166.1587934201300; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 13:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3298791.iIbC2pHGDl@lenovo.localdomain> <1840287.usQuhbGJ8B@lenovo.localdomain> In-Reply-To: From: Jorge Almeida Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 21:49:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard... To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: a88acc7b-0c2c-47e1-81d1-51a7c12225ed X-Archives-Hash: f01d4863590f11f64a98d869b60a415e On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 9:23 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 1:06 PM Jorge Almeida wrote= : > > > Some reading I did about people having problems similar to yours with dis= cord and zoom suggested that some of these aps are compiled to __only__ sup= port pulseaudio and then they supply it if it's not already on the system. = Even though you don't build it using a specific portage entry in your world= file doesn't mean it's not on your system if it was buried in the zoom/dis= cord code. Hummm... But then discord would not complain about not being able to initialize audio? > > 1) Run 'pulseaudio' at the command line to check There is no such thing (if it were hidden in some app it would not be in the PATH, anyway) And I regularly check what's cooking, with "ps axf". > Any 'real' pulseaudio build can be configured to not 'autospawn' via it's= config files. That way people who don't want it, or think they don't, can = have it on the system but run it only when they need it and shut it down wh= en they don't. I did that for awhile. That sort of setup might be more acce= ptable for your needs and would allow you to build it and manage it yoursel= f. I don't know. Something to consider. On Gentoo I wouldn't be fearful of = building it and trying it out. Not sure what flags you'd want to enable or = whether you'll end up in some sort of dependency hell as can happen with th= is sort of stuff on Gentoo. Yes, stuff to learn, if possible. (But dependency hell is a definite possibility, not because Gentoo but due to the mindset that lurks beneath pulseaudio & friends) > Cheers Jorge