From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0AA4138806 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 11:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F5ACE0F40; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 11:59:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ot0-x243.google.com (mail-ot0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C00F3E0EB4 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 11:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ot0-x243.google.com with SMTP id y10so14456506otg.10 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 03:59:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4am36pnZY0R35zRY4fjxMufvcbT3LLEvMewriVfh3dg=; b=NeJo4qePu33lUJp17gbiAqyp/uQlJhITV3ovSI+rwuwhJkVSU0Ea3DWsPiVdnFPmQ1 bIChv9s2Ke11yjIMIEzEGVqogZi6Tbqkwt0T1L4Fmt/5Ht3tg2gqCX5pmmOiDk6Y6BIR fHcf7DoEtTUShwYD8hi/t3vYjRi3WRuDY/EeK/68INYiWsf9B02zAYxgvh1Yr5uK2ZFX U+VwRxwdscfGnaifWxMd0apX3Mz/72cMiFZHrhaXYYtGPLGAKmIQWSshR2ZwqWK7KpH4 1UWheLwN/rsDV9WENf1Kn1xX+phxU+iz9hc1Nn1EE8kiPYnpFb+szn+G+QuvdxBx7pMo VOew== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4am36pnZY0R35zRY4fjxMufvcbT3LLEvMewriVfh3dg=; b=K5NjV/MO7OaTYO4qxg8Pqrs4n/iJuUHO9dGtRAZ9GCGwwpXVgqvdoXCMnyisQqlrWY NZ/ltIHfqhVu48zYL4VCeXZ4ZWZhJkovDx0NgzPBwVEMSdsa+1uJyS0Y2z3b9EIlsT21 ttSvh/evWlXeHVIVfN/iOAMzmWuhPrmvHqHbdvAYCJ1+ZyGEpwHfrBAxApk6dfZFYxZc sAaCWoXhqycA83FcbGPuw/Yd8YwgmQS2ZfM57/KF99EC9Ot/ETQgoxRbvQs08TSZ1Xdl zweTUljRI1AaLoqgv+fWbtmocyM401c/Ft0UUoUmAp3h7mLwDd9PFnhPufLKZeFae7Yc a9jg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mJQSHrXiNU9+AVc3MAeXzOzCNMTsOf/5haetEbweJcn1VYDYZKE LIQDL83/1hr3ViusD6Vx6bXzXv9Z+XSDqvuAOwQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBossrpbz4ls1SEBeOcptramoVGccRnQLn03JI5T4fe5qS4ItO45Kc7GRAGXiMZ+N9Zf16zRXUriV/BzgzpZ085g= X-Received: by 10.157.63.203 with SMTP id i11mr67972ote.360.1512993564387; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 03:59:24 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.83.24 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 03:59:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <6582741.F9gJHCEsXr@dell_xps> <2343494.DDJaQvByiF@dell_xps> <20171210210139.rm63ja4rdyrb2ewo@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> From: Jorge Almeida Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 03:59:03 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory? To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: f634fca1-ced2-43e3-b3ae-ef311fb2f8b1 X-Archives-Hash: e0c4f25768929e4d3500dbf8fd596611 On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Jorge Almeida wrot= e: > [...] Documentation not for "end-users", "just works" stuff, users should not stress their little heads, we Drs. know best? I rest my case: Windows/Apple. > > And having a couple of Gentoo > boxes running Apache doesn't make anyone an administrator, BTW. Agreed. And an academic title per se doesn't make anyone's personal opinions relevant. I'm not an administrator, just an end-user. I do end-use supervision, since a long time ago. It was not invented by the author of systemd, it was not invented by the authors of launchd. End-users who choose to use linux do it for a reason. It is possible to learn stuff and to really *administrate* one's computers when using a OS that is not of the "we-know-best" kind. > > > Just my two cents. I will not answer any reply to my little contribution = to > this thread; Good. I can't remember any intervention from you that I would miss. Of course, I wouldn't dream of telling people how they should think, nor would I deny anyone the right to be an activist. > > Enjoy your echo chamber. Thank you for your contribution, Dr. Yes, we know you're a Dr. We know it because: a) You told us so, some time ago. (Yes, we were all very happy for you.) b) About the same time, you replaced the arrogant little picture of [part of] your face (in the gmail window) by a more standard one. Regards, Jorge Almeida > -- > Dr. Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s > Profesor de Carrera Asociado C