From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C99D2139083 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 21:56:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EAE1BE0F5E; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 21:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x244.google.com (mail-oi0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B16FE0E94 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 21:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-x244.google.com with SMTP id t78so10427555oie.8 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 13:56:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=YeUUDRzw9TM2Am7XYR84aqqG7dI106ntxEYSY78Vpbg=; b=JGK61c99jd9ntwMbqUGLMED3yrqZmi6/Gc3Ruj38scZz8qYFhn024uu71Y58Mm8HV6 p55IbW3jvTusbr7p8ykzCrVGJejOVEsmlbmW+WF4lK/ePpsRZShZLmFfPNYAZiddul0X 2E/r3RajGT/3k84Mpifecdu8bvd1exNjFDkEh+tkhU9OX7MgQ9uG9+aMhRdI/cgEl3ex ztOp8+6w30S25HYLvkdkF0iYkKiMythh405uZZAI3qSkjxLXbHpYmSYL84P3QiMp3BDe 5pr3TWdEw1MOoaa3hspIFLpfoNtv9egjPNQNgQsdEl/g46avvjbpALKyQE9YOKzQHhJD GhuQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=YeUUDRzw9TM2Am7XYR84aqqG7dI106ntxEYSY78Vpbg=; b=lXU/+gwYawzOMKSd8n96VTjI48pkPT9R820l3yeuYPMZj6lr8a+9NTtQBaAkClqY7o 5VSf08q/a7grst39BHnQND6Gkg6daf4WAVycdMpqVq9Jh1PM8I/1CEQa3Kz3y3y8Woab 0bVvQB7/biWrDM92HeXGEyyfnLwlbf5P4JMRa17PH/0H01Ta/8fePM09bN8GANBvHHxc tQQvGYnNlRf7umQXLjtAD6tDY5WUeFXFafjPNj1AVdRx7Ea8G4ffOw1+Eo0Jx+r+cUpw yj046AtaYnjGcUJYLvC4OSK8n2mSRJHBhS4uLpn4LYWlk5QffrnoEfuNQRd8jqhaGhx3 w/Jg== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX4VaSZX4qXHBGk9xwsaBsrE6tkA0ZV7MAwagVBYi7RjllrQjxN6 EedJQPju8KR/yG78WTzGymqBV9j0JqxTwXvBmrWqeQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMZJL9w5p+g2R/ossNwzq4LK88lK+JP7xceW/InQjEM6j0jRgoCNcjY/j/92M2d9O6vVssmKeam/Mq7EJLUX8pI= X-Received: by 10.202.239.7 with SMTP id n7mr29535772oih.156.1512942976352; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 13:56:16 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.83.24 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 13:55:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20171210210139.rm63ja4rdyrb2ewo@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> References: <6582741.F9gJHCEsXr@dell_xps> <2343494.DDJaQvByiF@dell_xps> <20171210210139.rm63ja4rdyrb2ewo@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> From: Jorge Almeida Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 13:55:55 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory? To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 901def0d-6a58-49b3-a207-9c83cc1f1a11 X-Archives-Hash: a1b4012c256ef143722fe7f847f62c8c On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-12-09 12:00, Jorge Almeida wrote: > >> Are you sure you need udisks? And policykit? I'm guessing you have >> some default USE variables which if removed would contribute to a >> cleaner system. I just checked the documentation about udisks in the >> freedesktop site. I didn't manage to understand why it would be useful >> (my fault, probably) but I understood enough to decide I wouldn't want >> such stuff in my system. > > AFAIK there are 2 main reasons for udisks: > > 1. automounting everything that moves, and even things that do not move. > By automounting I mean fully automatic mounting, ie. without any > click or other user action. Leaving aside the desirability of this, > it can be mostly replaced by a set of udev rules, even though udev > authors frown of such usage. > > 2. tracking media availability of optical drives, which maddeningly do > not provide any interrupt-driven way to do that. In spite of my > advancing age I can still remember when I insert a disc into my > drive, so if I don't need 1. above I don't need this either. > > Ergo, I avoid udisks. > Yes, it seems appropriate for Windows refugees and linuxers suffering from Apple-envy. When I said I didn't understand why it would be useful, I meant that the documentation in the site is all but clear about the goodness of its product. Lots of freedesktop/dbus mumbo-jumbo, though. Regards