From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E0B5139083 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 08:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB11FE116E; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 08:56:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ot0-x22d.google.com (mail-ot0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 442EBE0FB3 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 08:56:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ot0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id o23so12447959otd.1 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 00:56:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=4ksUWOUgCeJh6nao8lGo/Qq1M1YlNxdF4NOi4CT42vI=; b=maAQmpidyarpjcZwlPazlEkz3T4DfOjt9ZKSpk0r4RbHiuQseVSuCBJczFWHo4hpeZ kyUS+Hdg2td7Jae1ePZjX+nk0JSzkUI9Zolr/bwA/EK8zuyU9CQ7xXEKztcqkhcKutbY G/X0VlMwcc3BlLZ4JXUnJ/4Iebg+Wwemv+ysklUEJ9e81JHIVMC+bC9FZLHTRbdM4xqs mzC4kp6wV+JUzU2yDkMCyfh0EIVLOC4QpQdaFxuluJeVMQ0HF6oBdDKsPZzt4AW6wWZc Ydgknwu9XwSn72p0FTZSIqv4LfKGVfHuP2V6/uEInqKF58WxO0+I5VzMfqH2xOgnEQ34 LsTg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=4ksUWOUgCeJh6nao8lGo/Qq1M1YlNxdF4NOi4CT42vI=; b=tGvMQtJlenPzsz/bM2El84mYKhhP5JPjzqOEmBDbJ+hXb3vA4vI83Vt3Yazhe+5eeC pmX/8Pg1QQFXrFAFeCAO5rnRwfQvIa0Fb4Ojq2fGwa+lLtayQXhoe0RYpGvC8C9g41re DH+AvxH6exIWjbSd2baE6od7tjudR0cYkpjMZVRh899vo5pbMqhZW99bTd0ja3eCY5SA FA8oB165kUgce3IqOWvvNxqTz0WBaxw9qe1TtGK84MI3ENJva7seZZdZl4cQjOWGJijP 14FOKz1LAkl+Tmt24eX5WGXtEY7BlEFeysJZsKjNz+mNfgir67N7kixfrD4s+OSjwY7C 5P7w== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX7EYFaxv+AtKzLN7z2zmw89U5d1tnJPYONoWNNIozO2tqespun8 9WfJYHCRwqwEi0bUWImloPPCq3vN1o43qZISGU4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMZsOvEqUnEkmfrw2ZFclZPafW+8IrgilX7NWcgLkDdfRXP8grz2Swcxf+ZNU9hloH6Wz41UsZaQPl46+XXXWmM= X-Received: by 10.157.21.84 with SMTP id z20mr32817226otz.117.1512896200260; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 00:56:40 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.83.24 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 00:56:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <6582741.F9gJHCEsXr@dell_xps> <2343494.DDJaQvByiF@dell_xps> <2092160.laqpQd9B04@peak> From: Jorge Almeida Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 08:56:19 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory? To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: b07dcaa0-78f3-4f32-9dec-11146651bae3 X-Archives-Hash: 2038868336df1c1852d8ec30fcb36c3e On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:12 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Saturday, 9 December 2017 12:00:12 GMT Jorge Almeida wrote: >>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Mick wrote: >>> > Thank you all for detailed and clear replies. You'd forgive me for >>> > being (a little) paranoid about Poettering's fingers getting anywhere >>> > near my systems.> >>> > :-p >>> >>> Are you sure you need udisks? And policykit? >> >> I'm pretty sure Mick runs KDE, which requires both of those. >> > > Eventually emerging @world will just pull in the entirety of the > Gentoo package repository, and we won't have to worry about what is or > isn't necessary. > Not that I would object much to have gnome-common if I needed it (I don't), but it is a bit shocking that installing kde stuff pulls gnome stuff. After all, they're supposed to be alternative worldviews, er, desktop environments. Maybe the relevant people should stop and think whether unbridled complexity is a good idea? (Of course, this is not a Gentoo-specific issue.) Jorge