From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8E0E139083 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:26:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88B81E118D; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x243.google.com (mail-oi0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A05EE1144 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-x243.google.com with SMTP id t78so9842514oie.8 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 02:26:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=gH47hBUZoxaSsBFLg0RGzIAscHC3JsQBe27CNPq93NQ=; b=m8j/Ie+WA9Rd0cc6gfYZ9HWXs74eR0qKot7gpBnf4jmLAXt6Y58/zS/LT+wxjagLbF /lScgLrOn9dyWpYgyJVbkcTvMghhRz9BJ6KB0GUnWljv0zOBsKuBlhgDZ7oCrcj5Wai9 7IaW7oQ2zA5sXyh/KCUyWNAUfYGoG6X/KBqUSPUUG+4v6OwfUtApqNKl+7WLABZpMDHc ERb9aFHazBFKvtzKFm46j1Y2B22/MKZ0oQEEXOr9weBcgWHi+DZvXLZ8AqjDRsWHfp/V Ia5Ne4wA/OisXc6xkstUKiBO6LSccxvt3B5GmOf9fiQ8aXYMGrQFhZvx/Z8d77HMd1SP cxQQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=gH47hBUZoxaSsBFLg0RGzIAscHC3JsQBe27CNPq93NQ=; b=AXiEFyOcCUtLsYN7fJk1qM6hegGFcUi3e2UpwCjvXbUZwlN4SHJWLE7aUcm4bKz6tu WOcoUrtQDw9hSgHTr95PKszoSQhgswswmkbrkUNTqVYvK6+dN5SkCS9mqOZnEuOu6BY+ Sxo6Sq8rWNvHCn8/p/l8Gix4sx5Y1tuPynnTrPBbQnUidEw0zAO0ReOoYhQFIfT3uuVP iuQz1bvwj7dwLkansZEfengHlH0IgROFI/ZAhZIbtpWENDei4KTBSHEVguP6hHQuLXYM YSiIuhxHwkhx6m4e5erfSO8cvNMjV1YK3XWMhjMN6rSsBA34vOEU7RQTs3oyfeCqmjHW Kw5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX44kEWPmUCsW7buQ462eC7ZvuUyrcbISc2T0Q2jCDVng95tKYh6 inMbuF2tM/4PGjIN4m8AkYiy0a9CIPc324CBuFc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMZPRMt1KE0XtbB3JMj+XeiZoMbHSmZdM/MdVrjp+3ILIVQt90/I+OUUa5mfxZKnKsWQRbxMGExKsQy7APxTl+w= X-Received: by 10.202.92.66 with SMTP id q63mr29945132oib.78.1512901568175; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 02:26:08 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.83.24 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 02:25:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5A2D04A1.6090101@youngman.org.uk> References: <6582741.F9gJHCEsXr@dell_xps> <2343494.DDJaQvByiF@dell_xps> <6cb25230-9803-2bd4-ee69-66504d0d1822@gmx.com> <5A2D04A1.6090101@youngman.org.uk> From: Jorge Almeida Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:25:47 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory? To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: efa5bbdc-0585-4abc-8362-ea2e8eaa4e60 X-Archives-Hash: 8a1df12ff69a0e55fd6705b3524007ca On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Wols Lists wrote: > On 09/12/17 12:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> I'm all in favour of Lennart-bashing, but let's keep the bashing to what >> he's responsible for. > > > > As far as I can tell, the most egregious thing he's responsible for is > for wanting a well-designed system that works! > > Face it, linux is a hodge-podge of things thrown together, and held > together with baling wire and sealing wax. Lennart doesn't want a system > where a small failure in one place cascades and brings down a load of > stuff elsewhere. > And, of course, a system of his doing will not have a single point of failure. At all, at all. And it is well-designed, to boot. Why not get rid of all the bazaar stuff altogether? They could just fork linux. Minus the name, of course. I could suggest a name, but won't. But maybe it is more appealing to grab something that is already there? Not to mention that it is way more friendly to the interests of a certain corporation. Regards