From: Alecks Gates <alecks.g@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 09:20:42 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKkyAYbwJarDGZYWG3Cdz-wc=yhHOAG9oFSxyEvwo8GkWmjc-A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52121D0F.5030004@libertytrek.org>
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@libertytrek.org> wrote:
>
> On 2013-08-18 10:55 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> And, putting aside systemd and getting back on topic to the council's
>> decision of (eventually) not supporting separated /usr without an
>> initramfs; have you ever stopped to consider that, perhaps, that's the
>> best *technical* decision? (*gasp*)
>
>
> That is *not* the concern here, Canek, and that should be obvious from the comments here.
>
> Repeat: the primary concern is *not* about separate /usr without initramfs.
>
> The primary concern is that systemd will eventually be shoved down our throats whether we want it or not, and using eudev or mdev or *anything* other than systemd (ie OpenRC/eudev) will.
>
*snip*
>
>> When you have almost all distributions converging on that, and even
>> *the OpenRC maintainer* (which is the one pushing this, BTW, not the
>> systemd guys) supporting that decision, don't you think that perhaps,
>> just*perhaps*, everybody screaming about the sky falling (which, BTW,
>>
>> they are certainly noisy, but I really don't think are that many) are
>> overreacting and even (*gasp* again) wrong?
>
>
> Again, the main issue is not about separate /usr, so please stop trying to deflect the subject...
>
Isn't that what this thread is about? "Optional /usr merge in Gentoo"
Can someone please explain to me what's so hard and/or complicated
about making an initramfs? At this point in time it's extremely
simple for me, but I only manage relatively simple systems (although
I'd like that to change soon). All I do is add one extra line (for
example - "dracut -H --kver=3.11.0-rc6") to my kernel install
procedure.
Granted, the only reason I have an initramfs is for the plymouth
splash screen (other systems aren't desktops) -- but from everything I
can see it's not too complicated otherwise.
--
Alecks Gates
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-19 14:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 159+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-13 9:08 [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo Alessio Ababilov
2013-08-13 11:38 ` 东方巽雷
2013-08-13 14:05 ` Alessio Ababilov
2013-08-13 15:24 ` pk
2013-08-13 15:44 ` the
2013-08-13 18:08 ` Alessio Ababilov
2013-08-16 4:16 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-16 12:29 ` Alessio Ababilov
2013-08-16 12:35 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-16 14:05 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-16 14:35 ` How hard is it to move separate /usr to / partition? - WAS " Tanstaafl
2013-08-16 14:48 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-16 15:04 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-16 15:09 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-16 15:17 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-16 16:41 ` Paul Hartman
2013-08-16 21:30 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-16 13:57 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-17 11:49 ` Dan Johansson
2013-08-17 19:18 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-18 6:40 ` Stroller
2013-08-18 9:16 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-18 19:38 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-25 22:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-26 6:10 ` Pandu Poluan
2013-08-26 6:23 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 11:36 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-27 11:42 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 12:05 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-27 13:03 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 13:11 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-27 13:44 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 15:55 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-27 16:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-28 10:28 ` Pandu Poluan
2013-08-27 19:24 ` joost
2013-08-27 19:50 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 20:50 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-26 7:06 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 8:45 ` Mick
2013-08-26 9:56 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 10:17 ` Pandu Poluan
2013-08-26 12:06 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2013-08-26 14:38 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 14:36 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-26 14:45 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2013-08-26 13:16 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-26 14:11 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 16:36 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-26 17:08 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 17:30 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-26 21:05 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 21:37 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-26 21:53 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 22:25 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-27 6:18 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 7:59 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-27 8:26 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 8:58 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-30 23:05 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2013-08-30 23:08 ` walt
2013-08-17 6:14 ` [gentoo-user] " Daniel Campbell
2013-08-17 8:36 ` the.guard
2013-08-17 19:22 ` [gentoo-user] " Andreas Eder
2013-08-17 19:26 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-17 19:31 ` staticsafe
2013-08-17 19:34 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-18 3:42 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-18 8:53 ` Alessio Ababilov
2013-08-18 9:44 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-18 14:16 ` pk
2013-08-19 9:21 ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2013-08-19 9:27 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 14:03 ` pk
2013-08-13 18:32 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-18 4:33 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2013-08-18 8:40 ` Alessio Ababilov
2013-08-18 19:37 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-18 21:08 ` Mick
2013-08-18 21:54 ` pk
2013-08-18 22:49 ` Dale
2013-08-19 9:31 ` pk
2013-08-19 9:53 ` Dale
2013-08-19 10:04 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 10:50 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-19 13:23 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-19 13:36 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 16:39 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-19 20:54 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20 14:08 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-20 14:43 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 14:33 ` pk
2013-08-19 21:24 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20 5:29 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-19 10:17 ` Stroller
2013-08-19 10:55 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-19 13:36 ` William Kenworthy
2013-08-19 13:49 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 16:43 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-19 17:13 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-19 17:03 ` Yohan Pereira
2013-08-19 20:27 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 20:00 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20 1:12 ` Dale
2013-08-20 4:00 ` joost
2013-08-20 5:55 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20 6:54 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20 9:59 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 13:57 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20 9:58 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 13:21 ` Dale
2013-08-19 2:39 ` microcai
2013-08-19 3:42 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-19 6:35 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 12:13 ` pk
2013-08-19 13:11 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 20:32 ` joost
2013-08-19 20:51 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 22:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 5:41 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20 5:58 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20 6:52 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20 10:04 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 5:38 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20 6:06 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20 6:58 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-19 2:55 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-19 13:17 ` pk
2013-08-19 17:05 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-19 18:55 ` pk
2013-08-19 19:28 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-19 13:26 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-19 14:20 ` Alecks Gates [this message]
2013-08-19 14:30 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-19 14:37 ` Alecks Gates
2013-08-19 14:39 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-19 16:11 ` thegeezer
2013-08-19 22:20 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 5:44 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20 10:03 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 12:10 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20 12:22 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 14:08 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-20 14:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 14:37 ` Dale
2013-08-20 15:00 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 21:16 ` Dale
2013-08-20 22:23 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 14:27 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 22:18 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-19 20:40 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-26 15:28 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2013-08-19 22:11 ` William Kenworthy
2013-08-19 17:29 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-19 5:52 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-08-19 7:53 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-20 2:22 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-08-20 10:51 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-20 12:34 ` J. Roeleveld
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