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From: Alecks Gates <alecks.g@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 09:20:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKkyAYbwJarDGZYWG3Cdz-wc=yhHOAG9oFSxyEvwo8GkWmjc-A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52121D0F.5030004@libertytrek.org>

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@libertytrek.org> wrote:
>
> On 2013-08-18 10:55 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> And, putting aside systemd and getting back on topic to the council's
>> decision of (eventually) not supporting separated /usr without an
>> initramfs; have you ever stopped to consider that, perhaps, that's the
>> best *technical*  decision? (*gasp*)
>
>
> That is *not* the concern here, Canek, and that should be obvious from the comments here.
>
> Repeat: the primary concern is *not* about separate /usr without initramfs.
>
> The primary concern is that systemd will eventually be shoved down our throats whether we want it or not, and using eudev or mdev  or *anything* other than systemd (ie OpenRC/eudev) will.
>
*snip*
>
>> When you have almost all distributions converging on that, and even
>> *the OpenRC maintainer*  (which is the one pushing this, BTW, not the
>> systemd guys) supporting that decision, don't you think that perhaps,
>> just*perhaps*, everybody screaming about the sky falling (which, BTW,
>>
>> they are certainly noisy, but I really don't think are that many) are
>> overreacting and even (*gasp* again) wrong?
>
>
> Again, the main issue is not about separate /usr, so please stop trying to deflect the subject...
>

Isn't that what this thread is about?  "Optional /usr merge in Gentoo"

Can someone please explain to me what's so hard and/or complicated
about making an initramfs?  At this point in time it's extremely
simple for me, but I only manage relatively simple systems (although
I'd like that to change soon).  All I do is add one extra line (for
example - "dracut -H --kver=3.11.0-rc6") to my kernel install
procedure.

Granted, the only reason I have an initramfs is for the plymouth
splash screen (other systems aren't desktops) -- but from everything I
can see it's not too complicated otherwise.

-- 
Alecks Gates


  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-19 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 159+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-13  9:08 [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo Alessio Ababilov
2013-08-13 11:38 ` 东方巽雷
2013-08-13 14:05   ` Alessio Ababilov
2013-08-13 15:24     ` pk
2013-08-13 15:44     ` the
2013-08-13 18:08       ` Alessio Ababilov
2013-08-16  4:16         ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-16 12:29           ` Alessio Ababilov
2013-08-16 12:35             ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-16 14:05               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-16 14:35                 ` How hard is it to move separate /usr to / partition? - WAS " Tanstaafl
2013-08-16 14:48                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-16 15:04                     ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-16 15:09                       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-16 15:17                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-16 16:41                       ` Paul Hartman
2013-08-16 21:30                       ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-16 13:57             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-17 11:49               ` Dan Johansson
2013-08-17 19:18                 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-18  6:40                 ` Stroller
2013-08-18  9:16                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-18 19:38                     ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-25 22:02                       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-26  6:10                         ` Pandu Poluan
2013-08-26  6:23                           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 11:36                             ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-27 11:42                               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 12:05                                 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-27 13:03                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 13:11                                     ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-27 13:44                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 15:55                                     ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-27 16:02                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-28 10:28                                     ` Pandu Poluan
2013-08-27 19:24                                 ` joost
2013-08-27 19:50                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 20:50                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-26  7:06                         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26  8:45                           ` Mick
2013-08-26  9:56                             ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 10:17                               ` Pandu Poluan
2013-08-26 12:06                             ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2013-08-26 14:38                               ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 14:36                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-26 14:45                                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2013-08-26 13:16                         ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-26 14:11                           ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 16:36                             ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-26 17:08                               ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 17:30                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-26 21:05                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 21:37                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-26 21:53                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 22:25                                         ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-27  6:18                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27  7:59                                         ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-27  8:26                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27  8:58                                             ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-30 23:05                                           ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2013-08-30 23:08                                             ` walt
2013-08-17  6:14             ` [gentoo-user] " Daniel Campbell
2013-08-17  8:36               ` the.guard
2013-08-17 19:22                 ` [gentoo-user] " Andreas Eder
2013-08-17 19:26                   ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-17 19:31                     ` staticsafe
2013-08-17 19:34                       ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-18  3:42                     ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-18  8:53                       ` Alessio Ababilov
2013-08-18  9:44                         ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-18 14:16                           ` pk
2013-08-19  9:21                             ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2013-08-19  9:27                               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 14:03                               ` pk
2013-08-13 18:32 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-18  4:33   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2013-08-18  8:40     ` Alessio Ababilov
2013-08-18 19:37       ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-18 21:08         ` Mick
2013-08-18 21:54           ` pk
2013-08-18 22:49             ` Dale
2013-08-19  9:31               ` pk
2013-08-19  9:53                 ` Dale
2013-08-19 10:04                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 10:50                   ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-19 13:23                   ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-19 13:36                     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 16:39                       ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-19 20:54                         ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20 14:08                           ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-20 14:43                             ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 14:33                   ` pk
2013-08-19 21:24                     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20  5:29                       ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-19 10:17                 ` Stroller
2013-08-19 10:55                   ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-19 13:36                     ` William Kenworthy
2013-08-19 13:49                       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 16:43                       ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-19 17:13                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-19 17:03                       ` Yohan Pereira
2013-08-19 20:27                         ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 20:00                     ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20  1:12                       ` Dale
2013-08-20  4:00                         ` joost
2013-08-20  5:55                           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20  6:54                             ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20  9:59                               ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 13:57                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20  9:58                         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 13:21                           ` Dale
2013-08-19  2:39             ` microcai
2013-08-19  3:42               ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-19  6:35                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 12:13                   ` pk
2013-08-19 13:11                     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 20:32                       ` joost
2013-08-19 20:51                         ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 22:33                           ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20  5:41                             ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20  5:58                               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20  6:52                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20 10:04                               ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20  5:38                           ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20  6:06                             ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20  6:58                               ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-19  2:55             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-19 13:17               ` pk
2013-08-19 17:05                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-19 18:55                   ` pk
2013-08-19 19:28                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-19 13:26               ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-19 14:20                 ` Alecks Gates [this message]
2013-08-19 14:30                   ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-19 14:37                     ` Alecks Gates
2013-08-19 14:39                       ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-19 16:11                       ` thegeezer
2013-08-19 22:20                         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20  5:44                           ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20 10:03                             ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 12:10                               ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20 12:22                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 14:08                                   ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-20 14:17                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 14:37                                       ` Dale
2013-08-20 15:00                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 21:16                                           ` Dale
2013-08-20 22:23                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 14:27                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 22:18                     ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-19 20:40                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-26 15:28                     ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2013-08-19 22:11                   ` William Kenworthy
2013-08-19 17:29                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-19  5:52             ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-08-19  7:53               ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-20  2:22                 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-08-20 10:51                   ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-20 12:34                     ` J. Roeleveld

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