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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:14:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK2H+efzG7o-Z-Qr4mTkodLZeocm=GmwU_4xFk8HoR8-ZXnBoQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E15E268.6080005@coolmail.se>

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:44 AM, pk <peterk2@coolmail.se> wrote:
> On 2011-07-07 09:30, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
>> Gentoo users have developed a certain expectation over the years,
>> whereby devs will take user needs seriously and go to extra-ordinary
>> lengths to support everything under the sun.
>>
>> That's what Gentoo does. That's how the system by and large works, and
>> that's what users have come to expect. It's unreasonable for a dev to
>> think they can willy-nilly change that based SOLELY on their own
>> opinion, as the greater community was not built around that behaviour.
>
> I think so too. There should be some sort of consensus, at least among
> the developers (I think most, that I've come across, are reasonable and
> listen to us users) before they do something like this... In a sense,
> removing options (USE) at the sole discretion of the developer will make
> Gentoo look like any other Linux distro. Options that the user can
> decide is what makes Gentoo unique.
>
> Best regards
>
> Peter K

+1, although what we don't know from reading only the bug report is
whether the decision was in fact made by the individual dev or is part
of a larger consensus in the dev community. Without that info I don't
think it's appropriate to draw any specific conclusions about what is
motivating this change.

I do think that if the user community was to ask the dev community
(nicely now!) ;-) about this that we'd get a reasonable answer, or at
least some greater understanding of what's driving the decision.

Cheers,
Mark



  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-07 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-06 16:35 [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it? Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-06 17:23 ` pk
2011-07-06 19:37   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-06 20:02     ` pk
2011-07-06 20:41       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-06 22:53         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-07-06 23:06           ` Dale
2011-07-06 23:20             ` Peter Humphrey
2011-07-06 23:21             ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-07  3:04               ` Dale
2011-07-07 17:42     ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Orlitzky
2011-07-07 19:36       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-07 20:01         ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-07-07 20:47           ` Dale
2011-07-07 20:57             ` Peter Humphrey
2011-07-07 21:03               ` Dale
2011-07-08  4:42           ` 微菜
2011-07-06 18:02 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-07-07  2:12 ` 微菜
2011-07-07  2:45   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-07  3:31     ` 微菜
2011-07-07  7:30   ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2011-07-07 12:07     ` Stroller
2011-07-07 22:50       ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2011-07-07 23:40         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-07 16:44     ` [gentoo-user] " pk
2011-07-07 17:14       ` Mark Knecht [this message]
2011-07-07 23:52     ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-08 12:11 ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2011-07-08 13:14   ` Albert Hopkins
2011-07-08 15:19     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-08 17:39       ` Stroller
2011-07-09  7:26         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-09 14:02           ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-08 17:50       ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-08 19:06       ` [gentoo-user] " Albert Hopkins
2011-07-08 20:32         ` Stroller
2011-07-09 16:28       ` William Hubbs
2011-07-09 20:24         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-08 18:03     ` Stroller
2011-07-08 13:37   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras

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