From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SWWqa-0008C1-Su for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 21 May 2012 17:56:45 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49115E0CFF; Mon, 21 May 2012 17:56:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1663E0A41 for ; Mon, 21 May 2012 17:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl3 with SMTP id l3so5457408yen.40 for ; Mon, 21 May 2012 10:54:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=7AaZ6slhhB2Fm+as1Vf0Mp+H+BLhC8w59rH9G9SSs2E=; b=EUAMMP4Vdcg8X+vCA4qG03WwtLOTCJj/IqvQ8JFYjK45bFNrriF/T2aZrB9FGKqLJl yik9s/k4CCa40DgmZRFQ1srt5X277+ZuHcJKgj2MnKSuXMfhrCpI4F9cB6sUMM0iKQJb 44OttBNi+I0lOva+OfxHtILhU1e1outJ9G22gltjzB7sSvyuNGIgKRyrXUMd874jQrTp 7hnejj94DWUfnVBx9/8lQ7Q/v/Kk8DCuiQd/2jGy9WZ7w2Z8sVH7f/l2+FUjFvfBAJic Vu56mpeZQ7QtCr9Do1ofc4J1rVALSjy3kHVzeL0oeN6VeKmZuL4iY4Yui6o4tXcjWCa9 pObA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.46.228 with SMTP id y4mr7559807igm.10.1337622848799; Mon, 21 May 2012 10:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.81.100 with HTTP; Mon, 21 May 2012 10:54:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FBA77AA.6080307@gentoo.org> References: <2917245.cGtGWNT36e@energy> <4FBA77AA.6080307@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 10:54:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] skype package changes I don't understand From: Mark Knecht To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 2dd3e105-d53b-4ad0-b248-039ace343770 X-Archives-Hash: 67b868e19bc7049d8ce19dbb07c646db On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> if you use testing, you have to deal with such kind of situations. >> Using a known broken version is just stupid. There isn't a choice >> between those two. There is only a choice between: use unstable or >> stable. And if you use unstable, don't complain about things being >> fluid. >> Typical Volker. Not worth a response. > - From what I can tell, he is not using ~amd64 (testing). He uses a > mixed system (stable with a few packages in package.keywords) which > sometimes is even worse :) > That's it precisely. All my systems are 'stable' as best they can be. The only things that are more or less permanently testing are portage & eix. After that the only entries in package.keywords are specific applications or _very_ targeted things that address hardware issues. (Virtualbox, VMWare Player, nvidia-drivers) That's it. In general, the only reason ANYTHING goes in package.keywords is to address a temporary package problem, and typically they aren't there that long. For instance, if say Virtualbox had a problem I might keyword it for a month or two to get a new release that fixes the problem. After that version goes stable I remove the keyword entry and am running the same version I've been running. My keyword file is currently only about 12 lines. In the case of skype there was no stable version to use. Everything is marked as testing. While I agree that the emulation libraries are probably low risk I don't want to add 8 new things to package.keywords. It's just not the way I work here. > The best way to deal with your problem (and avoid seeing your > package.keywords getting bigger and bigger) is to grab -r1, mark it > stable, put it in your local overlay and keep using that indefinitely. > Yeah, most likely the best medium-term solution although what I've done for now is emerge -C skype. > - -- > Regards, > Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2 Thanks Markos! I really appreciate your inputs as well as all the work you guys do. We don't say thanks enough. (Ugh Volker. Keep the attitude to yourself dude) ;-( Cheers, Mark