From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25664158089 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 22:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F7E02BC135; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 22:22:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf1-x12e.google.com (mail-lf1-x12e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFD912BC033 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 22:22:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-x12e.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-507b9408c61so2303555e87.0 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 15:22:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1697581372; x=1698186172; darn=lists.gentoo.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=6OfYfHgPfnmaBuJewzcN8ngx4vLwqpQ/SEco06pbKxA=; b=fdFezVtPUFZN/rh3AnNM280k/6DC2VsGe7r2J+RKUKddxLQancoiBMjPqO0c1F4Wfv yC1KYyHkxDjuRrbc+Fp8NJWvUFWfyu4j1shnxPfUvR45vxD1KfeXb4dkLzgh96qehOf4 K75ijGu3cqLRdOguhYqRkja+l3QNjmvMTKiePEPTdx1SLoukACd063wvv2w7Gcm5QrPa unQDjGfvNowxBjyPSMijfQaO58z4St8jA9VIvfrdjePW+NuFwzGYFSvAdoAOSbPyxPhx mSj+IhIw3Nfw3MFWZ61NKyUjvYUJXXqUSiISYGpLgvQY3fNd+t04jAp2l+eBDnuLN8B7 +Hig== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1697581372; x=1698186172; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=6OfYfHgPfnmaBuJewzcN8ngx4vLwqpQ/SEco06pbKxA=; b=VM/U13NYI8EhpmOTrjtE9wNDfAUuvS7uP6+erHuIN0GBcupKCdBhuRUzXgEPK/f2D2 AteSlAo2GtbQCz4cVpi/PsXGiMMIl5j3MAr8GKi/l5ploxK8Lo4fZ8XV5XqqpDpZWWDD xGOtF9QWcmelHpiMtBCywzWufSWmghzgyxsConF3F02T0yAQbHbqOUWTLVI+Bf8FzTVn 3iHO3df9trUM8a5qQUyPGkZVGP0LSyVuWLr3P/LEf6ILCJ3TQlHhJmkCEqPDNp05U6ef B1fkOmMbbaBaj934JYIVCsjmbtjr7l4Ic570ZsS3VY1O3rysm5c24K0yn6ZlwYNCapLf J/2A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yz6w2BMz6oeSAkhrLiXLbOHsjdBN6yvnNDZoei4uINmWb31AYY4 IC55mi3nURrIphQfVLPHucZ9yhPSK7GkPlSb5jOFiTU+ X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHEJyLcjqpcN6dWlYg+jwPDTgfAnxlCxGbQLx0McnYWFKABJlsoNWBUBQHUx3qSdTrALmV+SXbHPxSwuf0lo4o= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:4827:0:b0:507:9f4c:efc8 with SMTP id 7-20020ac24827000000b005079f4cefc8mr2500529lft.14.1697581371615; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 15:22:51 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <17dbcf2a-13c7-b8c0-69f1-a09e5288cfd5@gmail.com> <1547976b-10a8-ba30-0559-348db4727011@gmail.com> <13371341.uLZWGnKmhe@rogueboard> <4b498c6d-7311-6645-ec34-009ea9c154b4@gmail.com> <02eb1de7-36e0-beaa-66f2-5eb6041b5451@gmail.com> <20231017082317.25633757@digimed.co.uk> <88840616-57fb-5862-e512-7dec7b32a00f@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <88840616-57fb-5862-e512-7dec7b32a00f@gmail.com> From: Mark Knecht Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 15:22:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a1f0470607f0f673" X-Archives-Salt: 22b08404-ac45-4684-96bd-d7b3fc38aecd X-Archives-Hash: 84d303b40978ec801f78cd5c1cf3b77a --000000000000a1f0470607f0f673 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > This wasn't the kernel. It was doing something else. I googled for it and others had the same issue but I never found where there was a fix. Odd thing is, it didn't do it every time. Just most of the time. When I was having network problems, it added a few more wait times. Once it took about 5 minutes from grub to a login prompt. > I get that the installation is gone so we'll likely never know what happened but that said I would have thought sudo dmesg after a login would have probably shown if something weird was holding up giving you a login opportunity. Strange to me that you didn't investigate it. I have 4 Ubuntu-based machines here and over the last 6 years I've never seen a 1 minute delay to login, much less 5 minutes. When I look in the kernel ring buffer on my desktop machine I see most everything done in 14 seconds from power-on. After that there are some delays on the order of 90 seconds for a wireless network I don't actually use much to be authenticated, and then a few apparmor comments out around 5 minutes, but none of that impairs normal login. I think you are better off running Gentoo. You do you, right? I hope the new setup works well for you. - Mark --000000000000a1f0470607f0f673 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> This wasn't the kernel.=C2=A0 It was doing so= mething else.=C2=A0 I googled for it and others had the same issue but I ne= ver found where there was a fix.=C2=A0 Odd thing is, it didn't do it ev= ery time.=C2=A0 Just most of the time.=C2=A0 When I was having network prob= lems, it added a few more wait times.=C2=A0 Once it took about 5 minutes fr= om grub to a login prompt.
>

I get that the insta= llation is gone so we'll likely never know what happened but that said = I would have thought sudo dmesg after a login would have probably shown if = something weird was holding up giving you a login opportunity.
Strange to me that you didn't investigate it.=C2=A0
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I have 4 Ubuntu-based machines here and over the last 6 = years I've never seen a 1 minute delay to login,=C2=A0much less 5 minut= es.=C2=A0

When I look in the kernel ring buffer on= my desktop machine I see most everything done in 14 seconds from power-on.= After that there are some delays on the order of 90 seconds for a wireless= network I don't actually use much to be authenticated, and then a few = apparmor comments out around 5 minutes, but none of that impairs normal log= in.

I think you are better off running Gentoo. You= do you, right?=C2=A0

I hope the new setup works w= ell for you.=C2=A0

- Mark

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