From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94C86158089 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2023 20:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0CB202BC124; Sun, 17 Sep 2023 20:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf1-x129.google.com (mail-lf1-x129.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::129]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD5A52BC017 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2023 20:17:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-x129.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-502fd1e1dd8so2475359e87.1 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2023 13:17:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1694981863; x=1695586663; darn=lists.gentoo.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ChAuXZ0NKqNCKI4N+sEHhnF7yg8lqb8TUCZYaIprWiA=; b=Rlt4eqvR9oQm09CKrtJnUrTMp0jTZAkJTr30WxaKAL43G+RYk5Vjcyr7WCCfMovnLA Ol0qE7Mgeza+PdMQ7kWzNZ5J2WYochmGdxai7KiVkv7hK3uttbgtRXP6DmG4mSTpwTSi 5bJTwY7YcFdp8ZNGwhVkb2hv3bK2a2hPgHJ2q8mH9dQcRsRxo+F+fMIM9njCpxCkiaXi iCDdhOH0avkk+Zh83aMymY4TJ4qiwGMxbFTBDChWwPtwa7eRre1wEkoWIbAFJP8HzG6N lPUs/kr1que+K0g90zFXR552w2xnp2zZCFnezTjH4qBGyBvthK4tJ3/urN2i2YXg9A/H Vi7A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1694981863; x=1695586663; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ChAuXZ0NKqNCKI4N+sEHhnF7yg8lqb8TUCZYaIprWiA=; b=MeFM2Sf3+9MBGw0WPXz/j0Ar/vZIzgrgqLhiHJUjYxj2lWhc6GRf8cyuxbCuJEfkE5 cdX+bk4xWsTn1+AbIxqM3m24Le2BrPmFuokPeOA+nOQUUXOdVx8R1mywZNJVs4z2SSX+ Um6M1aJjkDZRlLuZI39zB5FlB4PZnPrC6rE+KwfN3NuPNaDMiwE9yRl+1tbT0wieO7Hd YNA5uYp23qFCMjyn5M7k2dXCDXBk4YQmn1k9QO+KiDv7xdWtv5Mtm4/KxlVMHzW0XIKT Pp3m5KqrBTNc9OiLodMHZZH+WD5KAJiqycFoBmT1puW3w4jYxwLL/C2ct19FhptQekFZ OZ4g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxncrOyT2UbE6hvKvbKW12cYcP5+ZEK+AgrlVKSG0RY11P4I/0Y 0IBJu8pJYErTcp9QXkwICI82Hv8oMK1EUOO1HW43xpTR X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHu7TylOjJ+gSClpUCTOZT+KUuXh2547So0e8H0h+dqmWR+Eg7QhQixlulhwwJMCB67Q+XMQP4fn4d2JJ1roCY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3caa:b0:503:fee:5849 with SMTP id h42-20020a0565123caa00b005030fee5849mr2383994lfv.53.1694981862817; Sun, 17 Sep 2023 13:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1acbc1b0-9f39-1fd6-3cc1-6d55ae5eef0d@youngman.org.uk> <12286339.O9o76ZdvQC@sun> <78f64d77-a2a8-db71-48a9-122191b23853@youngman.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <78f64d77-a2a8-db71-48a9-122191b23853@youngman.org.uk> From: Mark Knecht Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 13:17:31 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] What is the point of baloo? To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d5824c060593b7bb" X-Archives-Salt: 2e8a8e99-8d77-4cef-839f-6d34b0a5301c X-Archives-Hash: eb8781744fcf13466f25231fc60a3dcc --000000000000d5824c060593b7bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 12:04=E2=80=AFPM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 17/09/2023 19:35, Peter B=C3=B6hm wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 17. September 2023, 19:46:05 CEST schrieb Wols Lists: > > > >> It always annoys me, but baloo seems to be being an absolute nightmare > >> at the moment. > > > >> I tried to kill it and it appears to have just restarted. Is there a use > >> flag I can use to just get rid of it completely? > > > > Do you mean use-flag "semantic-desktop" ? > > > > (I have disabled it in my make.conf) > > > I guess I do. I've just disabled indexing as per Mark, and it's reduced > my load average from 12 "just like that". It's just an absolute pain in > the arse given that about the only KDE app I actually use is Konqueror. > > But yes, I'll set -semantic-desktop in make.conf. > > Why does all this crap default to "I'll waste as much of your computer > time as I can, and I won't tell you what I'm doing, or how to benefit > from it"? > > In turning off indexing, I notice there's also plasma search. But I > haven't got a clue what all those widgets do. So I click on the "info" > button and I just get the description AGAIN. What's the point of all > this crap, if they can't be arsed to tell you what it DOES!?!? > > Cheers, > Wol > I do agree, and for a user like me primarily on Kubuntu I cannot easily get away from having it on the machine so I'm happy to just be able to turn it off. As for documentation, it's horribly out-of-date and it's probably the biggest negative about using Open Source as no one really wants to write it, and most users don't read it anyway. I feel ya! - Mark --000000000000d5824c060593b7bb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 12:04=E2=80=AFPM Wols List= s <antlists@youngman.org.uk<= /a>> wrote:
>
> On 17/09/2023 19:35, Peter B=C3=B6hm wrote:<= br>> > Am Sonntag, 17. September 2023, 19:46:05 CEST schrieb Wols Lis= ts:
> >
> >> It always annoys me, but baloo seems to b= e being an absolute nightmare
> >> at the moment.
> ><= br>> >> I tried to kill it and it appears to have just restarted. = Is there a use
> >> flag I can use to just get rid of it comple= tely?
> >
> > Do you mean use-flag "semantic-desktop= " ?
> >
> > (I have disabled it in my make.conf)
= > >
> I guess I do. I've just disabled indexing as per Mark= , and it's reduced
> my load average from 12 "just like that= ". It's just an absolute pain in
> the arse given that about= the only KDE app I actually use is Konqueror.
>
> But yes, I&#= 39;ll set -semantic-desktop in make.conf.
>
> Why does all this= crap default to "I'll waste as much of your computer
> time= as I can, and I won't tell you what I'm doing, or how to benefit> from it"?
>
> In turning off indexing, I notice the= re's also plasma search. But I
> haven't got a clue what all = those widgets do. So I click on the "info"
> button and I j= ust get the description AGAIN. What's the point of all
> this cra= p, if they can't be arsed to tell you what it DOES!?!?
>
> = Cheers,
> Wol
>

I do agree, and for a us= er like me primarily on Kubuntu I cannot
easily get away from hav= ing it on the machine so I'm happy to
just be able to turn it= off.

As for documentation, it's horribly out-= of-date and it's probably
the biggest negative about using Op= en Source as no one really
wants to write it, and most users don&= #39;t read it anyway.=C2=A0

I feel ya!
<= br>
- Mark
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