From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F6D8158020 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 15:15:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 474F7E0903; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 15:15:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf1-x136.google.com (mail-lf1-x136.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::136]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F416E08E0 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 15:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-x136.google.com with SMTP id z26so7723400lfu.8 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 07:15:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=J31v3siIwvE0QPwa85yhJ1+QdTK6ssCjMch/dsT6D+g=; b=NAuEW3IFHuDuNTjzag8FfvO7OrPbJABqAM0g6Y199qGgFX2hGGtj4AWe07iWky0gqU CYa6C20+H+orPFiO6Ou1OUIflspMJgG374eiakquBxCpRY1WBI4NSI/lyy8cQbeviObB dDKIRSXVEbH0VGTFPGBCITDYn4HZp/TSxSGcukhc+NTgKbFp838Tm3YcfNmMkeqq03Dt fNguSgvoj4omPOgmgAsJWxYzc7jo1/SU8/iTMGlCI3sLHlrvIeLfibLgz5XzkZ+wk0t7 gnUdgRodhfKi7UiaH9m9STrpm36yMbRbBQou21hmFwsdcj+fyTgAQ5GMIXBhY2CcaVpd UorQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=J31v3siIwvE0QPwa85yhJ1+QdTK6ssCjMch/dsT6D+g=; b=jMo2Sj2N2/gLqLRrvWZP5JbwzFde48WSohDZTcRavoQTG/0KM2LA86fr8IH2G5xZL1 Iw0nt3+FcRHDyHyDdgx3hHnpo7DeEIu700k9DjO6mGwo0vaLfFRGyyH54GAPuhmZSS00 hs9ao9Iv5mbQKhi6FKC4GW10j48cIUY9uWim1PmlPX8F98WIYlmqCDsNumdNbkbMYiF+ TTOk4ryyhmpLz3tBoaccUDkZ3rw6Nei+XMNsYoQol3V0ofsmysOyOPOnzxSKo1IPz5nj 2tKL5/wl/T6tFSICK3zHV65Tk2ktrB/qvTUbnUuoMCriza8yJgX8hqXPVCWy7xbsFK5b rHHg== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pmJQT7hDGfbJusr+tNmOE/aRhaFi8P1HFU30pr9W4QMqba0tbEc tI/xwvzITRCQd2ltJDl32rv+OMnGCR00Xjdp5zRxdb+L X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf5t4I8UwIT7ecR9Qb+Z4PysyA+OcraSzX+1KMYOQJ6ubRMoxpuzVOxIpMSCnJ/qUrOW0apLoDqscp+WdAxxOco= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3b27:b0:4b6:e197:3aeb with SMTP id f39-20020a0565123b2700b004b6e1973aebmr3356275lfv.233.1671290126033; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 07:15:26 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9407e524-2226-6ba9-dd7f-bac635d083e3@gmail.com> <10b30d8a-5c5d-a80a-e659-b5624e2848e4@gmail.com> <78c2c83f-fdd8-5c9b-3ac3-7c22bc4b5d64@gmail.com> <0a10c428-94f1-6112-4d88-c97143f9564d@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <0a10c428-94f1-6112-4d88-c97143f9564d@gmail.com> From: Mark Knecht Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2022 08:15:13 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000047672a05f0078e19" X-Archives-Salt: 2a94927a-a5dd-496a-a9a2-206616b844a3 X-Archives-Hash: 6ec2820ada0770078eeddd5d63bfda8e --00000000000047672a05f0078e19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:50 PM Dale wrote: > > I noticing that now. Once the install is done and you have the IP > address, heck, you don't need a monitor for much of anything it > appears. I even found a console so one can type in things to do. Exactly. My TrueNAS machines haven't had a monitor attached since they were built. Everything you need is there. It's more a storage appliance than a computer. > I > wonder, could one install the LVM stuff and use that? That would be > interesting. I wonder if there is a NAS software that uses LVM > instead. Interesting thought. I just may go bug google on that one. o_O Maybe I'm missing the point but why would you want LVM on a storage pool? If I'm doing backups I just want space. I let TrueNas put it on disk and give it back if asked. Why put another layer of indirection? If you're intending to use it as simple NAS - i.e. - the only copy of some data on your network - then possibly LVM might be interesting, but then you need a second TrueNAS box to back that up. NAS as a mountable data location is different than NAS doing backups which is what I thought this thread was about. What am I not remembering? - Mark --00000000000047672a05f0078e19 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:50 PM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
<= ;SNIP>
>
> I noticing that now.=C2=A0 Once the install is do= ne and you have the IP
> address, heck, you don't need a monitor = for much of anything it
> appears.=C2=A0 I even found a console so on= e can type in things to do. =C2=A0

Exactly. My TrueNAS m= achines haven't had a monitor attached
since they were built.= Everything you need is there. It's more a
storage appliance = than a computer.

> I
> wonder, could one = install the LVM stuff and use that?=C2=A0 That would be
> interesting= .=C2=A0 I wonder if there is a NAS software that uses LVM
> instead.= =C2=A0 Interesting thought.=C2=A0 I just may go bug google on that one. =C2= =A0o_O

Maybe I'm missing the point but why wou= ld you want LVM on a
storage pool? If I'm doing backups I jus= t want space. I let TrueNas=C2=A0
put it on disk and give it back= if asked. Why put another layer
of indirection?

If you're intending to use it as simple NAS - i.e. - the only = copy
of some data on your network - then possibly LVM might
=
be interesting, but then you need a second TrueNAS box
to ba= ck that up. NAS as a mountable data location is
different than NA= S doing backups which is what I thought
this thread was about. Wh= at am I not remembering?

- Mark
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