From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0F6C1382C5 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 19:49:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84010E096E; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 19:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qk1-x736.google.com (mail-qk1-x736.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::736]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E5DDE0936 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 19:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qk1-x736.google.com with SMTP id u5so828640qkf.0 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 11:49:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=kPQvb7Bua+rQQ3jfxe1J7897TQl1XPmMWaoCCBO2cuM=; b=UsA7SXLg6rq9/2irPjfIO4onqK7IcUXJmkGG8v/tfGw8tf1g1iDC8caIap1OYRgm5z qDn7lFY4pUIrn2P28DK1YMMuBhXrWwadKaet1eMs39WDax9fQNNluYWwThKyf9RN/Vqs oa6uLKuW5+R7jZivwOKE7Mczubx0AXRAGC+AeDlF3Eju0eOL9fqNJuKVer803OseCY+T 0fuHdCQ3kiytPBUpu//OjK2jBSURpXgpq0y9J5y4hFlPQNaL+VxKphgsOyrloZc3Q9ao SaucTcDgNbud+fG8SgVcul/rDUSKG795/yfyj0EpILDAZ6RlFWjPDcBVwNsYl1pE63Ur aK6g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=kPQvb7Bua+rQQ3jfxe1J7897TQl1XPmMWaoCCBO2cuM=; b=S1h+9DqTg1UnaTlWKM5lhlbiQzO5s3qDXoh9wGsluuhTKI4C6CCZpFCkKYtS2KwkZT Y4+tjQ7dk9c1mZJAmN8Qzs4F9XIfBq6lUpTKFbCgBYtB/hagrR5crxDxSLzjvzfJ6hgP 8VYo53B0BenRrmD70WgpyoPcBM0d4btDv49Kbrpdar2bRGZd3xM2PfwZeOkvIdOZJdDB T+QXRp0S8/jOLDuZ1MGmF4qHjmDz/3CfRKNTpyZqzqPhLLkABlFWRGoRZezn6OvPYptP XdsQyfJ9dNtVi39zBY2TGsLCJZFZ0dwVEzTRm5LSf9W7cdF6612o304Q6nTg+FjxfLYG 7BKw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531D3rDUYb5ofo4LVUORVR1eJdRIXAjc9tGKmHcbMsodUA5CFg4m DSl5geF2TNTdTzZcrrxGCMieKSdsJo2i2TIs6RK4fK1s1uM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyKcHA6ZLIWHY7V7NT3MPfCVtm731KTE+8iwgPs89r/VMHFZYiRGhkqJpj+uRHdPUzkZbcr7qlPHyGNdb03mfw= X-Received: by 2002:a37:6f04:: with SMTP id k4mr30355471qkc.426.1607888939179; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 11:48:59 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <650a1d1d-e2a6-6a55-b07b-af65a877d44e@web.de> <20201212223503.6d46ad41@digimed.co.uk> <32af647f-a0e1-77e7-ff0f-4a5495e45f6b@web.de> <20201213081731.16f5dc53@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: From: Mark Knecht Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 12:48:48 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why To: Gentoo User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000ee39205b65dd1e4" X-Archives-Salt: 6bee35f7-827e-4197-9d38-2c9d071be7ff X-Archives-Hash: 47196b4a0fa115ffe57f23a4de71c34e --0000000000000ee39205b65dd1e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 12:03 PM n952162 wrote: > > On 12/13/20 9:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > Nearly 2 months, quite a long time in Gentoo update terms. > > > > > > Okay, is the solution then to re-install? > Personally I wouldn't start with a reinstall. I'd start with my world file and remove/comment out every 'application' not required to keep the machine running/booting. That should be nearly everything other than things like grub, your kernels, hardware drivers, terminals, etc. NOTE: Just because you comment something out in the world file doesn't mean it won't run, it just won't get updated or be part of portage's considerations about what to do. At that point emerge @world should only be considering, from a build POV, the stuff you really need. This python problem everyone is having I cannot help with. Solving problems like that is why people run Gentoo. With lots of power comes lots of responsibility. However with all the applications 'unconsidered' you have a chance of getting the really important stuff built and booting. If I got that far then I'd start adding apps back in/uncommenting one or two at a time and see if I could make headway. I've updated machines that were a year out of date but it took days and days. If I didn't want to build code every week I decided I couldn't run Gentoo. HTH, Mark --0000000000000ee39205b65dd1e4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 12:03 PM n952162 <n952162@web.de> wrote:
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> = On 12/13/20 9:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >
> > Nearly = 2 months, quite a long time in Gentoo update terms.
> >
> &g= t;
>
> Okay, is the solution then to re-install?
>

Personally I wouldn't start with a reinstall.

I'd start with my world file and remove/comment out ev= ery 'application' not required to keep the machine running/booting.= That should be nearly everything other than things like grub, your kernels= , hardware drivers, terminals, etc.=C2=A0

NOTE: Ju= st because you comment something out in the world file doesn't mean it = won't run, it just won't get updated or be part of portage's co= nsiderations about what to do.

At that point emerg= e=C2=A0@world should only be considering, from a build POV, the stuff you r= eally need.

This python problem everyone is having= I cannot help with. Solving problems like that is why people run Gentoo. W= ith lots of power comes lots of responsibility. However with all the applic= ations 'unconsidered' you have a chance of getting the really impor= tant stuff built and booting.

If I got that far th= en I'd start adding apps back in/uncommenting one or two at a time and = see if I could make headway.

I've updated mach= ines that were a year out of date but it took days and days. If I didn'= t want to build code every week I decided I couldn't run Gentoo.
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HTH,
Mark
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