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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Are those "green" drives any good?
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 10:28:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK2H+efKuggsQSeph2fgJ437vVgz1HyCZT_byUgVrr-MicDMJg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA2qdGW8UuF3H-CBiqn48f+Pboj3AhCT2WhDd1SwzE-g7z_MJg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> wrote:
>
> On May 9, 2012 7:36 PM, "Mark Knecht" <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> As for RAID, +100 to not use them. The WD Green drives do not support
>> time-limited error recovery (TLER) and spin down based on their view
>> of trying to save power. For me anyway they simply didn't work well in
>> any RAID configuration. I switched my home compute server to
>> Enterprise drives which have worked perfectly for 2+ years.
>>
>
> I can understand how 'green' drives can fcuk up hardware RAID arrays.
>
> But what about software RAID, e.g., dmraid? Can't we just configure it to be
> 'more forgiving'?
>
> Rgds,

Possibly. Someone with more experience with mdadm probably could do a
better job but I'd never done RAID of any type at that time (I'm just
a home user who taught myself whatever little I know about Linux
through this list) and built this server with 5 drives to run a number
of Windows VMs so I was pretty sure I wanted RAID. I bought the WD
Green 1TB drives a little over 2 years ago and had multiple problems.
First problem was the 4K sector size issue which was fairly new at
that time, and then once I got past that I tried RAID and it still
didn't work well at all.

The best answer at the time was some piece of low level software from
WD called something like wdtwiddle or something silly as I remember it
but I decided to cut my storage in half and replaced the 1TB Green
drives with 500GB Enterprise drives.

Since then I've heard of people using Green drives for RAID and doing
fine but it didn't work with the ones I purchased.

- Mark



  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-09 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-09  8:47 [gentoo-user] Are those "green" drives any good? Dale
2012-05-09  9:25 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-05-09  9:52   ` Dale
2012-05-09 11:32     ` Daniel Troeder
2012-05-09 11:51       ` Dale
2012-05-10 19:39         ` David Haller
2012-05-09 21:28     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-05-09 22:24       ` Dale
2012-05-09 22:48         ` Paul Hartman
2012-05-09 23:49           ` Dale
2012-05-10  1:39             ` Pandu Poluan
2012-05-10  1:52               ` Adam Carter
2012-05-10 12:53             ` Todd Goodman
2012-05-09 23:37         ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-09 23:58           ` Dale
2012-05-10  7:03             ` Mick
2012-05-10 11:55             ` napalm
2012-05-10 12:38               ` Dale
2012-05-10 13:27                 ` napalm
2012-05-10 21:39                   ` Dale
2012-05-10 22:53               ` Paul Hartman
2012-05-11  0:07                 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-05-11  1:10                   ` David Haller
2012-05-10 19:38   ` David Haller
2012-05-10 21:13     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-05-09 11:47 ` Tanstaafl
2012-05-09 12:06   ` mike
2012-05-09 13:30     ` Tanstaafl
2012-05-09 12:29   ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-09 16:39     ` Pandu Poluan
2012-05-09 17:28       ` Mark Knecht [this message]
2012-05-09 18:42         ` Paul Hartman
2012-05-09 18:53           ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-10 14:20       ` [gentoo-user] make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails Michael Scherer
2012-05-10 14:50         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-05-10 19:57           ` Michael Scherer
2012-05-10 21:08         ` Stroller
2012-05-11  1:01           ` Michael Scherer
2012-05-11  5:18             ` Joshua Murphy
2012-05-11 12:59               ` Michael Scherer
2012-05-11 17:56               ` Michael Scherer
2012-05-11 10:20             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-05-11 22:48         ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2012-05-12  1:31           ` Michael Scherer
2012-05-12 18:17         ` walt
2012-05-14  1:44           ` Michael Scherer
2012-05-14  2:13             ` ny6p01
2012-05-14 15:26               ` Michael Scherer
2012-05-14 15:37                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-05-14 15:52                 ` ny6p01
2012-05-26 11:18                   ` luis jure
2012-05-26 13:56                     ` ny6p01
2012-05-14 16:13                 ` Allan Gottlieb
2012-05-14 17:13                   ` Dale
2012-05-14 20:54                     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-05-15  0:46                       ` Dale
2012-05-15 17:01                         ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-15 17:15                           ` Dale
2012-05-15 21:12                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-05-18 12:29                           ` Willie WY Wong
2012-05-15 17:25                         ` john
2012-05-15 23:26                           ` Peter Humphrey
2012-05-16  0:41                         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-05-17 16:14                           ` Michael Scherer
2012-05-17 17:05                             ` Dale
2012-05-17 19:13                               ` Michael Scherer
2012-05-17 17:13                             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-05-17 18:58                               ` Michael Scherer
2012-05-17 17:47                             ` Tanstaafl
2012-05-17 19:14                               ` ny6p01
2012-05-17 19:25                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-05-17 23:56                                   ` Peter Humphrey
2012-05-17 19:29                               ` Michael Scherer
2012-05-17 21:10                               ` Michael Mol
2012-05-17 18:06                             ` Pandu Poluan
2012-05-17 20:13                               ` Michael Scherer
2012-05-17 20:50                                 ` Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
2012-05-21  3:24                                   ` Joshua Murphy
2012-07-03 11:11                                     ` [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails [SOLVED] Michael Scherer
2012-05-17 20:51                                 ` [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails Michael Scherer
2012-05-17 20:59                                 ` Alex Schuster
2012-05-23  2:10                                   ` Michael Scherer
2012-05-23  6:05                                     ` Pandu Poluan
2012-05-19  3:18                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-05-19 16:59                           ` Arttu V.
2012-05-26 11:33                       ` luis jure
2012-05-14 18:25                 ` Tanstaafl
2012-05-14 19:11                   ` Alecks Gates
2012-05-14 19:23                     ` Michael Mol
2012-05-15  0:03                       ` Pandu Poluan
2012-05-15  0:05                         ` Alecks Gates
2012-05-15  0:16                           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-05-14 20:51                     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-05-14 21:01                       ` Michael Mol
2012-05-14 21:24                         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-05-14 21:53                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-05-14 23:23                             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-05-14 23:35                               ` Michael Mol
2012-05-14 23:26                             ` Michael Mol
2012-05-14 23:55                     ` Pandu Poluan
2012-05-14 21:56                 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-05-09 13:15 ` [gentoo-user] Are those "green" drives any good? Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-05-09 22:37   ` Dale
2012-05-10 16:20 ` Norman Invasion
2012-05-10 18:01   ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-10 18:13     ` Norman Invasion
2012-05-10 18:51       ` Mark Knecht
2012-05-12  9:34         ` Mick
2012-05-12  9:49           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-05-13  9:35           ` David Haller
2012-05-10 19:24     ` David Haller
2012-05-11  1:15   ` Bill Kenworthy
2012-05-12 18:50   ` Frank Steinmetzger
2012-05-13  9:38     ` David Haller
2012-05-21 21:05       ` Frank Steinmetzger
2012-05-21 22:44         ` Andrew Hoffman
2012-05-10 19:36 ` David Haller
2012-05-10 21:25   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-05-10 20:17 ` Mark Knecht

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