From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D944A158018 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2021 16:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C2A9FE08CE; Fri, 1 Oct 2021 16:09:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qt1-x82e.google.com (mail-qt1-x82e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD895E087C for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2021 16:09:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt1-x82e.google.com with SMTP id e16so9382208qte.13 for ; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 09:09:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=48V0scB10xob1/5KT1mHQofyAqp2x08B37AdkSUzgJU=; b=k1IXrZGfZyIk0oFrzA6n72j/R7yWyKzLb48RJ0XXLuEpSIshriteU9REyHZRc9s2C1 dFsBHi/cfwLVbs4kzOt+RY01Dai6JeGXow1zoT0ACxvdRza8hFJQYRPbk1J9ZjJb5sWf T//R+wlY7k2GaIeLmYzY8WgIKTSSLN4r+5zmy1PH70Npbz8qjD8s+E/PsOdRBSiRl4go 7g0pHSeWXVYeThxyGl3KfPt7wbFolSX3yi/vzIPoyN2yPN3qXh4tx4PlpHl9EstsLWeD c6WUG0uyPaUsd+TRibxYeldzG3cZbXvfFmwOthQyoHSM7nUjoLZNOVHaHE/lD2a58wtL FqlA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=48V0scB10xob1/5KT1mHQofyAqp2x08B37AdkSUzgJU=; b=loigOAF7RC6R8xi5JfPSCWO8Vp+ctMJ1zof8ZqNoRkOaJ020um2b3rhf6r3MN81smv iV2jBnD6YV/0QP3QbAzFtdHB4NbMByFnt3JoZNMA7CEdoQhcmBd+tUA1ouZwk8htuavR 3vJ/gJ8w5n6nop9GSgU6pAWKGNmjCCA8RbKZobkOgtT4B0LyoQQQ7iF+yWwqeqV4waq3 y8q8aMrLjOjHStZrYL1SnEeUXRNGXQagCEpE5YK2XxucbGyRInLaqoGKuSdutAVevux6 zaGv/uVsde16AKvZ7ZO0Zcm2//Jme6uxLLfEtu4CRWGrl7L7LeC9llFWKoyssHcLambR OHhA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532MPfAG/8Y5J0bmIdB5M/txBpqg6yihguuBANJ2sTX8dd9cpRA/ hU8F7t+Pohs7KCf26f4qL1RzyrvEYcY3MGTd7czDT8W2/9Zleg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzNYwvqqRTOCj744DdgTCAP3nY0SflbE3awsvSfUsPE+JaYpQdYvwMYVsPucnbziVq6xGlJa53rHAAAeHAg6lY= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:4802:: with SMTP id g2mr13968559qtq.217.1633104542736; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 09:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6157638C.4070409@youngman.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <6157638C.4070409@youngman.org.uk> From: Mark Knecht Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 09:08:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] NAS suggestions for home user To: Gentoo User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000026a43405cd4cc819" X-Archives-Salt: 49550edc-9d49-423e-bbdc-b2cddd0e8c19 X-Archives-Hash: dad4ae5dfbb486872f3df6cd2cf54306 --00000000000026a43405cd4cc819 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 4:00 AM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 30/09/21 22:50, Mark Knecht wrote: > > I'm in the study phase on some sort of NAS backup system for my home. > > I'll be building (or buying) a new desktop/server machine in the next > > few months - my i980 machine doesn't have the right instruction set for > > running Tensorflow anymore - so I want to figure out backups before I > > put together the new machine. > > Okay, your NAS box is going to be shut down most of the time? Why not > re-purpose your old box as the NAS? If it was running a lot, I'd be > concerned about the power consumption,but here it sounds okay. The number 1 reason would be I want the backup system running _before_ I decommission this old box. I'd like to spend some time using the old box, running backups, learning the software, etc, before the new machine comes online. Still it's a possibility. I could live on my old laptop for a few months, take the current server machine, decommission, rebuild it, bring up the NAS/backup solution/whatever it is. It's possible. This old machine is now about 10 years old. It's a big Cooler Master case, 6 or 8 removable drive bays, heavy. It collects dust and sometimes the fans are quite noisy. If I was going this direction I think I'd have to tear the whole thing down, redo the case fans at least. If I did all that then I think I'd use it for the new machine, but you do have a point. > > > > I have about $400 credit at NewEgg and would like to keep my additional > > costs on the NAS down to about $100-$200. I expect the new machine to > > probably be 4TB RAID but it would be quite a while before that gets > > filled up. > > If that includes buying new drives, you're pushing your luck here ... a > new "suitable for raid" 4TB drive will probably blow that budget in one hit! Currently my thinking about hardware was pretty modest: https://www.newegg.com/synology-ds220/p/N82E16822108743 and a couple of 4TB drives at $100+ would be in the $500-$500 range. I know NOTHING about boxes like that in terms of OS or maintaining them. Will respond to the rest of the post when I get back from lunch in Phoenix. 2 hour drive to meet up with the bass player in one of my college progressive rock bands. (It's tough being in your 60's...) Thanks much, Mark --00000000000026a43405cd4cc819 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 4:00 AM Wols Lists <antlists@youngman.org.uk> wr= ote:
>
> On 30/09/21 22:50, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > I&#= 39;m in the study phase on some sort of NAS backup system for my home.
&= gt; > I'll be building (or buying) a new desktop/server machine in t= he next
> > few months - my i980 machine doesn't have the righ= t instruction set for
> > running Tensorflow anymore - so I want t= o figure out backups before I
> > put together the new machine.>
> Okay, your NAS box is going to be shut down most of the time?= Why not
> re-purpose your old box as the NAS? If it was running a lo= t, I'd be
> concerned about the power consumption,but here it sou= nds okay.

The number 1 reason would be I want the backup= system running
_before_ I decommission this old box. I'd lik= e to spend some time
using the old box, running backups, learning= the software, etc, before
the new machine comes online.

Still it's a possibility. I could live on my old lapto= p for a few months,
take the current server machine, decommission= , rebuild it, bring up
the NAS/backup solution/whatever it is. It= 's possible.

This old machine is now about 10 = years old. It's a big Cooler Master
case, 6 or 8 removable dr= ive bays, heavy. It collects dust and=C2=A0
sometimes the fans ar= e quite noisy. If I was going this direction
I think I'd have= to tear the whole thing down, redo the case fans at
least. If I = did all that then I think I'd use it for the new machine,=C2=A0
but you do have a point.


> >
> = > I have about $400 credit at NewEgg and would like to keep my additiona= l
> > costs on the NAS down to about $100-$200. I expect the new m= achine to
> > probably be 4TB RAID but it would be quite a while b= efore that gets
> > filled up.
>
> If that includes bu= ying new drives, you're pushing your luck here ... a
> new "= suitable for raid" 4TB drive will probably blow that budget in one hit= !

Currently my thinking about hardware was pretty = modest:


and a couple of 4TB drives at $100+= would be in the $500-$500 range.

I know NOTHING a= bout boxes like that in terms of OS or maintaining
them.

Will respond to the rest of the post when I get back from lunch in=C2= =A0
Phoenix. 2 hour drive to meet up with the bass player in one = of
my college progressive rock bands. (It's tough being in yo= ur=C2=A0
60's...)

Thanks much,
=
Mark
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