From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SCfEy-0004M8-Sb for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:51:49 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A1B17E0B1F; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com (mail-wi0-f169.google.com [209.85.212.169]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D415CE0AA5 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:49:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhm17 with SMTP id hm17so5184885wib.4 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:49:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ce9BMV9ldPPs3TTR4qg4qxxRkd4B4KcbJZcGKaX3Zsg=; b=rB/vGyjbXQtgnHnApv5BTOAlGttqSngzn4xjQm1ZFZ7ZpJIKt6V/gKZh4k1haYf3NB mHZjUnyR31sC7EZ1zBm2wRK3PjSRu9m4mKNvj4tjzTywLC8ZcFuGDcxI8kCOfEhkDHCs PunNCsG6JHQmby//ZPigUz+e0UC3F1bF5Nprgw3QGLLSeGOy2f530UWGgvvFtEK4svqA crpgjLetd2xKGgqyrYtnEkW+UjgNP42mxcox/HPnWoZsNqGT/0OCcQ/3H0ekeWyo+G0W 3KMySKcq/FsgzA/PcH8VJaXWY2m1QQzgIhg7GpdlrHBbrI5zmUndw+SXyGxilsmPOWGY OrEg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.102.101 with SMTP id fn5mr1658465wib.6.1332888581984; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.8.68 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:49:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F7240B6.4000702@gmail.com> References: <1332844604.4130.0@numa-i> <4F71BE44.3080206@kutulu.org> <01de01cd0c26$98088c40$c819a4c0$@kutulu.org> <4F71E12F.7060108@gmail.com> <000901cd0c40$0a137520$1e3a5f60$@kutulu.org> <4F720751.3020900@gmail.com> <4F72149D.7060605@darkmetatron.de> <4F721D30.8090400@gmail.com> <4F722735.90500@gmail.com> <4F72348A.2060407@gmail.com> <4F7240B6.4000702@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:49:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought From: Mark Knecht To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 7f4522f2-6775-4dee-822c-5e8643e65368 X-Archives-Hash: bd3621fdb6caf0dedbcbc4454fb94397 On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Dale wrote: >> >>> >>> Right now, if Gentoo fails to boot because of the init thingy, I have n= o >>> idea how to fix it. =C2=A0None at all. >> >> I understand. My question is why are you even using the initrd? >> There's no requirement to use it today, at least on stable. There's >> not even a discussion I've seen that says we _ever_ have to use it if >> we don't use a separate /usr, so I'm not understanding where the >> problem is. >> >> This is just my 2 cents, but assuming you have a lot of disk space why >> not do a second Gentoo install, use initrd there to learn about it, >> and just STOP doing updates to your current environment. If you don't >> update it then it's not going to fail due to an update, right? >> >> I'm not picking on you or anything like that. It just seems to me that >> you're worrying about the worst instead of doing the easiest. Let's >> let the heavy lifters do some work, watch people get through it, and >> only then decide what to do. No reason to cause problems with our >> systems. I've masked a few packages and am being careful about >> updates. >> >> Good luck, >> Mark >> >> > > > Right now it won't be a problem but when I get my set up like I want it, > it will be. =C2=A0I'm trying to learn it on a system that doesn't care ri= ght > now. =C2=A0As posted elsewhere, if I boot with the init thingy then I can= 't > su to root. =C2=A0My solution right now was to boot without the init thin= gy. > =C2=A0However, if I get to where I can set up my system like I want, that > would be a problem for me. =C2=A0This is holding me back from doing sever= al > things on my system and one of them is using LVM for everything but / > and /boot. > > Dale I understand. Like they say 'in war all the plans change when you fire the first bullet'. Just make new plans. Do the easy thing for awhile. Do nothing. Just read, watch, learn but most important don't do updates. Just wait. Patience is a virtue! Cheers, Mark