From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7961381FB for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:27:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 545E321C0DC; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:27:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-f177.google.com (mail-qc0-f177.google.com [209.85.216.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 347E921C0D5 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id u28so4497846qcs.22 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:22:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6s8nxEnPyHbi0Q87NzENIYdnHPbqJlRBmO6hzNP6H4g=; b=l+5+dOtcq7cZ56cNe1VD92S4UufBhh/4/ilzNT/psjR000RTY+084wAL0Uvb2tRlJM gwBLvJLm+IAcFmezZIC53JmaA5AXk91UHrEziDujJIUCEDLnnNyE7xefUMoWHP3Sr3vw aEsizseoTYQbXyL9AEQDM6W7MWuW+P2mi9hTez11/YBojRj/WEdpJMvpmOfHDVcVuc0J iiTNFWb0ExrNJGUWwDSoAciV8YzMF0DIZDPu3eghDbCiaz0Ka5vkAzPWcgWtff+qLMPG XReWBgXxZz/fvUdhrPXEvAfgD83vKdsTF/KMPZZicOY/4C4IV+qLpU5uFiYjB0pXNHYB IlDg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.185.138 with SMTP id co10mr13188180qab.97.1356542561338; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:22:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.186.132 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:22:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20121226170335.GA26547@server> References: <20121224204817.335033c6@khamul.example.com> <50D8B467.4080100@gmail.com> <20121224230413.GL26547@server> <20121224182907.2bf6d3d6@fuchsia.remarqs.net> <20121225021332.GQ26547@server> <20121225165143.GB11243@ns1.bonedaddy.net> <20121225232612.GW26547@server> <20121226142419.GE16323@ns1.bonedaddy.net> <20121226170335.GA26547@server> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:22:40 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? From: Mark Knecht To: Gentoo User Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 53323173-c3a1-4afa-b545-f9461c5674ac X-Archives-Hash: b3c88f8983104a7128e30702dca04f3e On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 09:24:20AM -0500, Todd Goodman wrote: >> * Bruce Hill [121225 18:30]: >> > > >> > > Try reading the kernel Documentation. (e.g., >> > > /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/ramfs-rootfs-initramfs.txt.) >> > > >> > > initramfs is an improvement over initrd. >> > > >> > > Todd >> > >> > Having read it years ago it still fails to give me a good reason for using it. >> >> It gives plenty of good reasons. >> >> If they aren't good for you then fine. >> >> But if you read it you wouldn't be asking why initrd went away and was >> replaced by initramfs. >> >> Todd > > Actually I had not read it in quite a number of years, did this morning, and > you are entirely correct. Perhaps all those years ago when an initrd was > required at times, I'd just held onto my mkinitrd script and didn't want to > change; and since there's no need for an initrd now, I didn't actually read > it, but clung to incorrect memories. One interesting small point I got out of the docs that Neil pointed me toward: That since linux-2.6 we're all using an initramfs "The 2.6 kernel build process always creates a gzipped cpio format initramfs archive and links it into the resulting kernel binary. By default, this archive is empty (consuming 134 bytes on x86)." So it's a nit but no one should be saying "I don't use an init thingy" but rather "My init thingy is empty and has no jobs to do on my system". (Or at least that's my understanding...) - Mark