From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D01E15A7D9 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2023 15:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC0BAE07F9; Mon, 13 Mar 2023 15:10:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf1-x135.google.com (mail-lf1-x135.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::135]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F148E075F for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2023 15:10:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-x135.google.com with SMTP id m4so3125039lfj.2 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2023 08:10:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1678720239; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=8E2oZgOQAgsYFZUQ0Q0zcnSgKBSKnRZaR1cgf5qkeU8=; b=gbwAAkbh3lJibEReeCrU6YBdhIh4k+22paEtyqWp5rt2R/MWehPaZoXvHI1HhE9/NH EACinX0jR8PMNoFaMkh26LgszXB1Zsbvz0Ew8qNON32mQmPK3XPfq75y7EzOaVy6K2Fj NU9bAxMoeO0pch8kCjVX4bV3ER9PXVDPt176ZKyq7obbe8NrPk2qlhRHqWZAYrmiq8ge Ec9YRc1TTE2CiCChreurFNlbBNlLV0B6nZJ/oMmfQQ+cm8dhQOK8UvWOaiyTWu1vj1Jg PqbiEKBQzgvw4/CePB0Zonv9YR255lh+nbOY5TBsvuC+2DIokHDURgpL1uVbZWNzvokh n3lQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1678720239; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=8E2oZgOQAgsYFZUQ0Q0zcnSgKBSKnRZaR1cgf5qkeU8=; b=j+ZmMhbNlZ8vJ0x9+xOFAVMVa3bfOd9dcmimdIGtL9hwTtba7A01/bcOw20tuIYZhC h1wJobO5xDCkwWipcjah7m/dDEgP3nl1glio3jRyv74xblMZg1iLA2mkNhNV1833Qw+R ojfpzYu2ixuzpsoo7YY6qD6vKukFfIlvJCiGWc8RrEa7s5oQAJ2NlJnv/xIPmCU+Wewn 1JvsTRJYaXo/wVMBWhsgPwnX5pBWu5JJjpSrRcm+r/xDND77EoxP6Jo6w6TB9BrpnWng qJt61cUTTVJsu6tHCLserWdEwFtsZck9FV6XvPSOizZc4JSIbQDK823jvb0F6AVJfv9M hfVQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKWbM63DZCHb7712MFRL0HahnX+7WOfSEJen5YPGM/pvPrXM8qeo HGJlZ18sYBhoscp/YpsyoSJzBBQ1I+LrgaEcNC5O/gzJ4iY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set/KfQLFJKJyT4YfnQutH+9KD7hOKqjgzFRlu91G7lfSXUavxVNTa9742GL550IxWYughyG6G/Y4OZaVg6zncww= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:538c:0:b0:4db:2425:5d11 with SMTP id g12-20020ac2538c000000b004db24255d11mr10944207lfh.5.1678720238574; Mon, 13 Mar 2023 08:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <57322874-e9c0-2f2c-8994-43438fe72995@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Mark Knecht Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 08:10:27 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] PCIe x1 or PCIe x4 SATA controller card To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007f624f05f6c983f3" X-Archives-Salt: 0cafe547-6bdb-4b2d-b4a8-eb14642e8bb2 X-Archives-Hash: 96e31a7981dc83a5c11675e4e97de1cf --0000000000007f624f05f6c983f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 7:35=E2=80=AFAM Dale wrote: > Another question. My rig is getting a bit aged. I have a AMD FX-8350 8 > core CPU running at 4GHz. I also have 32GBs of memory. I've read that > Intel currently has the best bang for buck on CPUs nowadays. I'm open > to the idea of switching. As far as speed goes, if I built a new rig > that is using a reasonably cost CPU and memory, would I see any real > improvements? I think it all depends on what you're going to use the machine for and whether you really use all your CPU for extended periods of time. For all the hours my machines run they are mostly idle, in the sense that even if I'm keeping the machine busy watching a movie, doing backups, browsing the web, even on my older machines none of those use more than 10-15% of my older machines. The only two things I do which drove the purchase of my new machine were: 1) Studio level audio recording using Mixbus32C (the for-pay version of the Open Source project called Ardour) 2) Astrophotography photo processing using the for-pay program called PixInsight. Mixbus32C issues are more based around real-time performance and use of both the Linux and Windows versions, and being able to transfer projects back and forth between both platforms. I've never heard you talk about using Windows, nor doing anything that takes real-time capabilities so that probably doesn't apply. PixInsight is the processor hog. It can use all my 32GB memory (and more) and it can run for hours using 100% of my CPU so it's the one that drove my eventual purchase of a Ryzen 9 5950X. PixInsight has a benchmark program built in and all the results are open to look at: https://pixinsight.com/benchmark/index.php?sort=3Dcpu&os=3Dall Interestingly I didn't find your processor even on the list and the top says it covers about 3000 CPU models. You might take a look at this when you boil your processor choices down to 2 or 3. Note that for the specific processor type you can open up the group and look at individual machines. Most/many include what motherboard they were running so that can assist you making choices also. Hope this helps, Mark --0000000000007f624f05f6c983f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 7:35=E2=80=AFAM Dale <<= a href=3D"mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com">rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:<= br><SNIP>
> Another question.=C2=A0 My rig is getting a bit age= d.=C2=A0 I have a AMD FX-8350 8
> core CPU running at 4GHz.=C2=A0 I a= lso have 32GBs of memory.=C2=A0 I've read that
> Intel currently = has the best bang for buck on CPUs nowadays.=C2=A0 I'm open
> to = the idea of switching.=C2=A0 As far as speed goes, if I built a new rig
= > that is using a reasonably cost CPU and memory, would I see any real> improvements?

I think it all depends on what you&= #39;re going to use the machine for and
whether you really use al= l your CPU for extended periods of time.=C2=A0

For= all the hours my machines run they are mostly idle, in the sense
that even if I'm keeping the machine busy watching a movie, doing=C2= =A0
backups, browsing the web, even on my older machines none of = those=C2=A0
use more than 10-15% of my older machines. The only t= wo things I do
which drove the purchase of my new machine were:

1) Studio level audio recording using Mixbus32C (th= e for-pay version
of the Open Source project called Ardour)
=

2) Astrophotography photo processing using the for-pay = program
called PixInsight.

Mixbus32C iss= ues are more based around real-time performance
and use of both t= he Linux and Windows versions, and being able
to transfer project= s back and forth between both platforms. I've
never heard you= talk about using Windows, nor doing anything=C2=A0
that takes re= al-time capabilities so that probably doesn't apply.

PixInsight is the processor hog. It can use all my 32GB memory
=
(and more) and it can run for hours using 100% of my CPU so
= it's the one that drove my eventual purchase of a Ryzen 9 5950X.
<= div>
PixInsight has a benchmark program built in and all the = results
are open to look at:


Interestingly I didn't find your processor even on th= e list and
the top says it covers about 3000 CPU models. You migh= t
take a look at this when you boil your processor choices down
to 2 or 3.

Note that for the specific pro= cessor type you can open up the
group and look at individual mach= ines. Most/many include what
motherboard they were running so tha= t can assist you making=C2=A0
choices also.

<= div>Hope this helps,
Mark
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