From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 666CE158094 for ; Sat, 1 Oct 2022 14:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38119E0BD3; Sat, 1 Oct 2022 14:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf1-x12c.google.com (mail-lf1-x12c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E13B9E0BC6 for ; Sat, 1 Oct 2022 14:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-x12c.google.com with SMTP id k10so10910838lfm.4 for ; Sat, 01 Oct 2022 07:57:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=V935SsFFYmfoSHOdzQxdUnieu57COAZ/ujGxF/n3HfM=; b=B3iHRFwi9+VrlhSyZnNf4tjtTOLxd1reoIjDUvDof/lvB+ioxkrENvVCr03vDh4bBt QwLk13qn1OqG0u9dMdab9aCudbWLSyMSO+UWpjyczF/LJ92mzzuV9FNvhxymVLM/aaIW LUqFXdo85IpTkKq2DavYbxdbmkcAVe8ubmACizUCzaLdCtqQPE6J3c7rqpAVyGaKjcyo BeG+knE/iQBLIBOoWaeUdxpWrpjk3Vnvt16OdeszER7rw31WbfaB2Zqf565L3AGxIS0F etKgpLuKuLodBXLFdqlA5yTC0g8VsUKEdzfeskZkX9HRwZX4C7bZjpwe9cwJODolwXJG YYhA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=V935SsFFYmfoSHOdzQxdUnieu57COAZ/ujGxF/n3HfM=; b=5wZIWT51eUDfNlHVBazO3VnfVKWD82LkDu4cS0AJlJG/6vwZpe4u3okX+scOt0EsOw iYtm8owlQRwjOjMbEpdnReRt8M6AEKXPgntC2eLcvjiWkLcpsA3Muicvbv9t+wRnZ0/D GhLtJQu5SIKOq5w+LZLIsBVqKyyyUKk9D/eDBoX7IX5dmFVu+g1snR5B49l3nh72RukB LgsTjZXs7Wqn32rLyTePh/uUkMfxexsOkaEbRotjMBZzwAKBSURHwgQr9hy151nfk/6c fLtzI9P5+P5nh10+BvYkqEl0zjwctk5HGuMtdKmyc0ijDDPT0ZWl/QHDBFqqkPp12ViM 7/iQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf3uiX2ulsB/Pyj8tGCs9XDbMkDuKBKbmGPHWUu9ird1Tlwzk4Zu NxCuns4ITQYnQxuGNtd/7Yqmzv1qubyOFa3MZt98hg5w X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM5ycBrSbN8RoqtaVO7fOuKWtIi4kMHHYWR5fpdNWgVkyqyGBxh4xfcNk9/OxM9wiShoNuloak9+njnXmwpnUfk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3b1f:b0:49a:d3f2:46c3 with SMTP id f31-20020a0565123b1f00b0049ad3f246c3mr4698968lfv.364.1664636234983; Sat, 01 Oct 2022 07:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2258933.ElGaqSPkdT@dell_xps> <1740504.VLH7GnMWUR@lenovo.localdomain> <2657720.mvXUDI8C0e@wstn> In-Reply-To: <2657720.mvXUDI8C0e@wstn> From: Mark Knecht Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 07:57:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Pipewire not a dependency? To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000776af705e9fa53cb" X-Archives-Salt: 295886e1-e8f8-48d6-a079-c1debdbd828c X-Archives-Hash: d66b8c87ed8847389131dc106cf99621 --000000000000776af705e9fa53cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 7:51 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Saturday, 1 October 2022 15:08:40 BST Michael wrote: > > On Thursday, 29 September 2022 15:11:02 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > > On 28/09/2022 13:57, Michael wrote: > > > > I'm trying to understand why one laptop with Plasma which had > pulseaudio > > > > removed, won't bring in pipewire as a dependency. I have set USE="- > > > > screencast", because I don't need/want this functionality, as I have > > > > done > > > > on other systems which nevertheless have had pipewire brought in as a > > > > dependency. > > > > > > Probably some other package pulls it in directly, independent of the > > > screencast USE flag. For example media-sound/easyeffects. > > > > I just looked and a pipewire(d) system has only a few additional audio > > applications, spek, vidcutter, easytag, none of which seem to bring in > > pipewire. I think I'll have to install it manually on the system which > > doesn't bring it in as some dependency. Somehow I was under the impression > > it comes with Plasma these days, but perhaps I have stripped down this > > Plasma/kde installation too much. > > I have no pipewire on this fairly standard Plasma box. > I believe that pipewire, as far as KDE users are concerned, is a distro choice about when to use it. My Kubuntu boxes started using it recently. I had no issues and didn't need to change any settings for any application that makes use of sound. YMMV, Mark --000000000000776af705e9fa53cb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 7:51 AM Peter Humphrey <= peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrot= e:
>
> On Saturday, 1 October 2022 15:08:40 BST Michael wrote:<= br>> > On Thursday, 29 September 2022 15:11:02 BST Nikos Chantziaras = wrote:
> > > On 28/09/2022 13:57, Michael wrote:
> > &= gt; > I'm trying to understand why one laptop with Plasma which had<= br>> pulseaudio
> > > > removed, won't bring in pipew= ire as a dependency.=C2=A0 I have set USE=3D"-
> > > > = screencast", because I don't need/want this functionality, as I ha= ve
> > > > done
> > > > on other systems whic= h nevertheless have had pipewire brought in as a
> > > > dep= endency.
> > >
> > > Probably some other package pu= lls it in directly, independent of the
> > > screencast USE fla= g. For example media-sound/easyeffects.
> >
> > I just lo= oked and a pipewire(d) system has only a few additional audio
> > = applications, spek, vidcutter, easytag, none of which seem to bring in
&= gt; > pipewire.=C2=A0 I think I'll have to install it manually on th= e system which
> > doesn't bring it in as some dependency.=C2= =A0 Somehow I was under the impression
> > it comes with Plasma th= ese days, but perhaps I have stripped down this
> > Plasma/kde ins= tallation too much.
>
> I have no pipewire on this fairly stand= ard Plasma box.
>

I believe that pipewire, as far as KDE = users are concerned, is a=C2=A0
distro choice about when to use i= t.

My Kubuntu boxes started using it recently. I h= ad no issues and=C2=A0
didn't need to change any settings for= any application that makes=C2=A0
use of sound.

YMMV,
Mark
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