From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E796138320 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 02:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D85E521C076; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 02:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f43.google.com (mail-bk0-f43.google.com [209.85.214.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02A1A21C060 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 02:06:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f43.google.com with SMTP id jf20so8030061bkc.16 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:06:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5QTUYTXCZLyjNsDwiwg8BjDjHGpWtEwRN3nwLqSnYwk=; b=cKLurz1/ecFHP7RkXjZD0vDRsq2a9Jgc5fJEUrqpMLDww5NQlQdduoV6l9DO/bcUrf xCF1WwPq1qopRYPSLakm4tvy54nShsDZaEs7a6L2UeweHMBUbUBjSe5Tyay4jmJejA1s cgx5hTC8qjdN/NAyYbAmQCZ4raoc7JqQ+IvcUZGK9kGFJCyYtEckFskaTE7CYotveI+n 3anMPz0oWWV2Us64X+alVofdsFF8716Q8Yoyf+L2oxhCXzIQ6OA6AkjZ56Y1+MmfkE39 5vlxFa1b6B7YN6xan7QMCP/OYH2dmzxjfDjpQKkjBebU2vRsV0ZgaOqD9E6MpLWLS5k3 xhng== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.149.10 with SMTP id r10mr28554230bkv.67.1357524379530; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:06:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.199.144 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 18:06:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50EA2A8D.3040203@iinet.net.au> References: <201301061119.56710.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <50EA2364.4080604@gmail.com> <50EA2A8D.3040203@iinet.net.au> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 18:06:19 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore From: Mark Knecht To: Gentoo User Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: e6116fda-2646-4fe1-945c-9bcae520b160 X-Archives-Hash: 71871f2373cad5b95d84239f52140f79 On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:53 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: > On 07/01/13 09:44, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Dale wrote: >> >>> >>> I'm not sure that is a bug. As I posted earlier, this was changed a >>> good while back. There was a reason for it but I can't recall what it >>> was. The new devices for CD/DVDs is /dev/sr*. I don't have, and have >>> not had, /dev/cdrom or dvd on this rig for a good while and it works. I >>> think this happened about the same time as the hard drive devices were >>> changed from hd* to sd* even for old IDE drives. Since it was changed >>> on purpose, I don't believe this is a bug. >>> >>> Dale >> >> >> Might be true but how about digging up some references that this was >> done on purpose. It makes little sense to me that if someone did this >> on purpose, breaking lots of old scripts, leaving broken udev rules >> laying about and just assuming everyone would figure it out without so >> much and a news item then I'd say it was done pretty badly. >> >> Again, if it truly was 'on purpose' as you say then that's OK, but >> let's not create too much false history here. In my mind it's just as >> reasonable that it's just a mistake or someone that was overlooked, >> but I'm totally open to you showing us what we all missed. >> > Seems like the cabal has been busy again ... its not a bug but a feature! > > http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/hotplug/udev.git;a=commit;h=19b66dc57cce27175ff421c4c3a37e4a491b9c01 > > Also some hits on gentoo forums etc which imply that when actually > merged, the rules file was not included.. > > This did happen awhile back and I just moved to /dev/sr0 and got on with > life so didnt go into it in too much detail. > > BillK > > > Bill, From the link you provided: "From now on, udev will only create /dev/cdrom for the first optical drive, and if the drive is capable /dev/dvd. No other devices will get any compatibility symlinks or enumerated device names like cdrom1, cdrom2, and so on. The /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd links have by default a negative link priority, which will cause them to be overwritten by any other device which clains the same names with already existing udev rules." According to the above info Kay didn't single-handedly eliminate /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd. I understand lots of folks are quite unhappy with udev and some of the decisions Kay has been taking. (I do real LKML!) :-) Anyway, I'm not saying it isn't on purpose. Cheers, Mark