From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SCZvo-00018K-FF for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:11:40 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C5DBAE0796; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:11:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECE1E05D7 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:09:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhr17 with SMTP id hr17so101746wib.10 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:09:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rwMaVURmf8RVq8mf3mJXeH+ZQpxbXSTNEaT9KPz+KG8=; b=Ih79y8OstAXA4naOn+BB/O6qZWLTs2X4r7kV50CXwE+aWXdAerc0clTjtgrd1spAFb nc2a7NOkptYxw0RdaXSqgx8ymSmPDRbB3bDT/xeDH7apv6TplITWZl5NFRj5YiXlPtpL 3cE7Jnzp2htvI5s/ZEZc7Ogp8XM0WlMJ0uqBmCxgDTQApbfsU+y8VjFqC7cSbyRVm2+k P31ZOLCx6I2gfUos48UeZ16yHnzaAnDOlxWiF2UWLO/Tlgi5X8maRiJ/81gdlUIVRCom 3aMNag++gzIATmRHt1uuhOIUzJrjZgmsYRbkt1xSTyMU9DsFncmjuDgufZh1Z+UGg40L qAAQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.102.101 with SMTP id fn5mr28862718wib.6.1332868164317; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.8.68 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:09:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F71F182.5010709@gmail.com> References: <1332844604.4130.0@numa-i> <4F71BE44.3080206@kutulu.org> <4F71E865.30800@hadt.biz> <4F71F182.5010709@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:09:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought From: Mark Knecht To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 816e0c8d-24de-44b7-bde9-109f3c24e453 X-Archives-Hash: 5c94d7a64a6929b44fff85be0bc221ac On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Dale wrote: > Michael Hampicke wrote: >> >> I don't understand why people always say that they hate genkernel >> because they like to build the kernel on their own. You still can do >> this with genkernel. I've been doing it for years. > > > I tried genkernel and it was a miserable failure for me. =C2=A0So, for me= , I > have no desire to use it. =C2=A0I have also read where others have the sa= me > experience so it is not just me. =C2=A0It may work fine for some but for > others it does not. > > I plan to keep making mine the manual way. =C2=A0You can keep using genke= rnel > if you want. > > BTW, mine is like this: > > copy old config > make oldconfig > make all && make modules_install > copy kernel to /boot > > That to me seems a LOT easier and it also works very well for me. > > Dale > > :-) =C2=A0:-) Until you add in the work of doing the initrd for each new kernel. I think that's Michael's point. I agree with you Dale. I do it the same way as you, except if I build an initrd I've done it completely by hand, building the whole directory structure, etc, then building it into the binary. That's a lot of work. Today we have two tools I know of, genkernel & dracut, that are represented as doing this work for us. I'm interested in what genkernel did wrong for you, as well as how to use both tools successfully. - Mark