From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SCeWV-0004N3-09 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:05:51 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A83CCE0A8D; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:05:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F57E0A41 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhr17 with SMTP id hr17so338767wib.10 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:02:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vJhaz4WwUJ1Yfm2DjD74Ik3Y/Ivs/81eEnTAOc1uois=; b=paWgv5JS0AOK3On9hVz2iv/fTHVgZGVotdnXG17yffVoAbeA9GHUt+s2nwhiKrCzca mLxx98Gokff5Z7fWzBM5X93ev+ei/Y1+NKDULLmwOdnVxr3GJjpZlNMT/d2tqgjqitjC /qWaioyS/mUg95KoI095LZn82RQxtN01AvV7Eo3lxJgf14ahf6lbjcChJNz0ko//30uT eLGAo+P2BdqBq466AB3aySUe0xpUIUGcTPfnTTDU06Q2tTFPW/WhdIZJelMdjISAbwLE H64tY0dYss9mFCgvbeALmD/0yFoELUA7vMrBPGZloLRjUScBfLmvZ1JG1ZXId+eUJSuS gSUA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.102.101 with SMTP id fn5mr1411392wib.6.1332885735135; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.8.68 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:02:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F72348A.2060407@gmail.com> References: <1332844604.4130.0@numa-i> <4F71BE44.3080206@kutulu.org> <01de01cd0c26$98088c40$c819a4c0$@kutulu.org> <4F71E12F.7060108@gmail.com> <000901cd0c40$0a137520$1e3a5f60$@kutulu.org> <4F720751.3020900@gmail.com> <4F72149D.7060605@darkmetatron.de> <4F721D30.8090400@gmail.com> <4F722735.90500@gmail.com> <4F72348A.2060407@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:02:14 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought From: Mark Knecht To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 3562c54c-6d61-44d9-bd94-b8fdf3734928 X-Archives-Hash: 3585ab1a2ac021273f374eeaa28eb1ea On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Dale wrote: > > Right now, if Gentoo fails to boot because of the init thingy, I have no > idea how to fix it. =C2=A0None at all. I understand. My question is why are you even using the initrd? There's no requirement to use it today, at least on stable. There's not even a discussion I've seen that says we _ever_ have to use it if we don't use a separate /usr, so I'm not understanding where the problem is. This is just my 2 cents, but assuming you have a lot of disk space why not do a second Gentoo install, use initrd there to learn about it, and just STOP doing updates to your current environment. If you don't update it then it's not going to fail due to an update, right? I'm not picking on you or anything like that. It just seems to me that you're worrying about the worst instead of doing the easiest. Let's let the heavy lifters do some work, watch people get through it, and only then decide what to do. No reason to cause problems with our systems. I've masked a few packages and am being careful about updates. Good luck, Mark