From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E06D1158095 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 20:45:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46E0DE0937; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 20:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf1-x12d.google.com (mail-lf1-x12d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AE8FE0101 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 20:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-x12d.google.com with SMTP id i26so32260419lfp.11 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 13:45:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=4FeD3X6H94nOj9yGdt+ISPGBNVRYD6xX6AZmNz89Sn8=; b=IWr+J2ttcghJZADfm/I5Uhmah/KGsHhabVZRr9afg5/NCiNQxLoiTY/ZklvhFo/jio VIe1SOxhNRlBOePlw/MyS1WAG4A96qXOUcqNz1EgCoiE3vGtk/szHASz/adxGM25t5ZT gSePGsFlZ+RfkJ4SWyXDBl2F4KYcbdycGxlnBTKTGJs7wySemXR9xxn1Rp73OJNfkwov XhxY/oliZ5QZLgOL3Ap9usrV2kt58A/Zq/+sYWAjWmoP993tyFTMqyw492xiPuvILqfC 9bvTN+z2DMF6/zno4vsa86Kmoby6WAo3jO9R+v3QBxIBLMtOY38gNCj51rIH0aYAM3ln wv/A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=4FeD3X6H94nOj9yGdt+ISPGBNVRYD6xX6AZmNz89Sn8=; b=WRUnrjWjamVLrf9he8wxQ+kSOHyKfZanwJ7ps3B7hfb9tdXDVD6KQvh3WdFDJcBUHB 3OCw0UwP+13K54qW7ea43GZqOg/UecH00yWe5EuFdZ/q8J0sHKL1xhYes0L6Fo6YdJOZ YFRjQCY7gDuUs2XAsoY5I08oF8Yr/+XPZpYJOQKFpTQzaR7+GXERR4EGQzQFLmB2S4fv YBT7JMj1w9Fo/dZolKac2Ea5T0GoSYD7Jpju5oTf/Z1dmLZ0LAx6KC720OUl+5hfkOIt OKxV5ivGIgmZHMjhdhweOuRwwfqzvOL/HgHp41/mXMTQ87DHgd46zsKOJr8bDUsC5ISk X94A== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf3+d5dmQ1jSXzOuJEIa0fgNlJpR8LVbjJBITPVFo0wInN0M2HyI e4YdW3H4vApFWgSiRZ0L5vrWB6pjSdlX4urBT0MBjKHX X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM6ZUaOkn162pCzpWF4IXB7ODa4BhcLB3ULOdcbeYyy4wvsnH/iQvlGtpefRkY9PLhgCgfg5IfP9lucWqr6TDvU= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:1588:b0:498:eb9c:2fda with SMTP id bp8-20020a056512158800b00498eb9c2fdamr535206lfb.91.1663274731011; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 13:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Mark Knecht Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 13:45:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : on-going frustration To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000081850605e8bd53b3" X-Archives-Salt: d0e3ba44-cb4f-4698-b414-ad7319bd397c X-Archives-Hash: 5f839c3a6e01fd868f535208d30d1c07 --00000000000081850605e8bd53b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 1:13 PM Philip Webb wrote: > > Back in April 2022, I asked for advice here re parts for a new machine (ANB6) > & got some very helpful info (thanks to everyone). > Since then, it hasn't worked out very well > & I'm still relying on my 7-year-old machine (ANB5). > > I want an AMD CPU, based on past experience ; > I prefer a Gigabyte mobo ditto, but will consider other makes. > I would like to have PCIe 4.0 , which is much faster than 3.0 , > to improve Gentoo compile times ; I don't do gaming. > I would like to avoid a separate graphics card, > which are expensive & seem today to be designed for gaming enthusiasts. > I want to buy from a physical store, not delivered by an on-line order, > in case there's a defect, so that I can easily take it back to the store. > > Looking at the offerings from Canada Computers, my most convenient store, > which I have used for all 5 of my previous home-built machines, > my impression is that if you get PCIe 4.0 , > you don't get CPU graphics, but have to buy a separate graphics card ; > if you have built-in graphics in the CPU, you get only PCIe 3.0. > > I might be willing to get an Intel CPU, > but in their specifications there's no mention of PCIe (3 or 4) : > is this an accident or are PCIe's confined to AMD ? > Intel seems to be a quite different world from AMD today. > > Does anyone have any useful advice or suggestions ? > > -- > ========================,,============================================ > SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb > ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto > TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca > Look for an AMD X570 chipset MB. I think you can find what you're looking for. HTH, Mark --00000000000081850605e8bd53b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 1:13 PM Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net> wrote:>
> Back in April 2022, I asked for advice here re parts for a n= ew machine (ANB6)
> & got some very helpful info (thanks to every= one).
> Since then, it hasn't worked out very well
> & = I'm still relying on my 7-year-old machine (ANB5).
>
> I wa= nt an AMD CPU, based on past experience ;
> I prefer a Gigabyte mobo = ditto, but will consider other makes.
> I would like to have PCIe 4.0= , which is much faster than 3.0 ,
> to improve Gentoo compile times = ; I don't do gaming.
> I would like to avoid a separate graphics = card,
> which are expensive & seem today to be designed for gamin= g enthusiasts.
> I want to buy from a physical store, not delivered b= y an on-line order,
> in case there's a defect, so that I can eas= ily take it back to the store.
>
> Looking at the offerings fro= m Canada Computers, my most convenient store,
> which I have used for= all =C2=A05 =C2=A0of my previous home-built machines,
> my impressio= n is that if you get PCIe 4.0 ,
> you don't get CPU graphics, but= have to buy a separate graphics card ;
> if you have built-in graphi= cs in the CPU, you get only PCIe 3.0.
>
> I might be willing to= get an Intel CPU,
> but in their specifications there's no menti= on of PCIe (3 or 4) :
> is this an accident or are PCIe's confine= d to AMD ?
> Intel seems to be a quite different world from AMD today= .
>
> Does anyone have any useful advice or suggestions ?
&g= t;
> --
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D,,=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D
> SUPPORT =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ___________//___, =C2=A0 Philip Webb> ELECTRIC =C2=A0 /] [] [] [] [] []| =C2=A0 Cities Centre, University = of Toronto
> TRANSIT =C2=A0 =C2=A0`-O----------O---' =C2=A0 pursl= owatchassdotutorontodotca
>

Look for an AMD X5= 70 chipset MB. I think you can find what you're looking for.
=
HTH,
Mark
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