From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2104C138351 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 01:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 947A721C122; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 01:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f42.google.com (mail-bk0-f42.google.com [209.85.214.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33F6A21C11C for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 01:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f42.google.com with SMTP id ji2so8898802bkc.1 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:05:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pDiHJFhVDGwCogmDOUmrTo9YnvF4r3Li3CSdfrz72JQ=; b=SV+ZCdE9h5behE+SmsHn5xLilCEpMOiVcNa4p8kgQwZvTBGbXN/28TwxzeU9qsYjiB C9bJ7cr0I6brt5mBKF5WqJHIk5FtPiz46t0hjCEH6SRtQV4e0T4F2grBwTaVOfJ6mclZ OH/PivoYaoITpXy0xTUeag+xf5gnENBUPEs/LF22xKHKDdJEtshPXise4KZP619tJTZ6 E/jEFtqMPEkDNPE41m6WayFSwi16wzFEwXeLEI1RGWiFcdDcw6tSjPGKD1oc/aN5LwaG Y+Of0CyAGRM83MAPP2hYXIL2Q12bve/aIAfDiLLUTsEoG8zKsfPJbVcknzAw/F7UglBN T6Vw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.9.22 with SMTP id j22mr30599664bkj.114.1357607119681; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.199.144 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 17:05:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130108012533.04004d12@khamul.example.com> References: <201301061119.56710.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <50EA2364.4080604@gmail.com> <20130108012533.04004d12@khamul.example.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 17:05:19 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore From: Mark Knecht To: Gentoo User Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: a85d614f-2cd6-42cc-8d8d-d677bc94a2d9 X-Archives-Hash: bda68d5ec2a560964db86f273eed5d1f On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:37:05 -0800 > Mark Knecht wrote: > >> Now, my point is that change to /dev/srX was the root cause is FUD. It >> isn't the root cause of this change because it didn't change on my >> systems. All I know is that ID_PATH (from the old file) used to work >> and no longer does. Whatever is responsible for creating that, likely >> some portion of the kernel, changed the value and created a need to >> modify how udev looks at the system. Is it a bug? I don't know. It's >> just the way it is. > > > It's not a bug as /dev/dvd is a mere convenience for the user - a > nickname if you will. You are highly unlikely to find a standards doc > of any kind stating the symlink should be there. Which means if it's > not there, you get to make your own convenient nicknames. > > /dev/harddrive has never existed, right? Same with /dev/dvd and > friends. make them if you want, but you can't expect them to be there > and their absence is not a bug. > > Obviously someone left them out of the rules files. Maybe they had a > reason, maybe they got lazy. Either way you get to add your own rules > to get the names YOU want. > > It really is as simple as that, don't overthink this one. > > > -- > Alan McKinnon > alan.mckinnon@gmail.com > > Alan, While I don't completely disagree with your POV, let's at least agree that it is nothing other than your POV. I have a different one, but as it's mine it's clearly of little interest or value. I really don't see why I'm the one getting banged on here but that's life sometimes. I saw a problem for a couple of months. It frustrated me but not enough to do anything about it. Solving it finally bubbled up high enough on my list that I finally asked if others were having the same problem. (which they were, and which they also considered a problem) Before anyone had actually answered me I had posted one way that folks who cared could fix it. I thought I was doing the community a small service by getting a little bit of technically positive info out there. I guess not in this case. Sorry for wasting bandwidth. I suspect it's time for me to unsubscribe and just read gentoo-user in a list somewhere. Sad, but flotsam & jetsam I suppose... Over an out, Mark