From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9059A15808B for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 17:29:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 14EFEE0A94; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 17:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io1-xd2c.google.com (mail-io1-xd2c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB09EE0A01 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 17:29:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io1-xd2c.google.com with SMTP id 125so12461240iov.10 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 10:29:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=A+rvp63tKqu+QhiJYVrn6QebUr0JoT0l1uESRpklzcQ=; b=I8Cv8c/E0GMF++tH1qhS0yBR0xyV7n5tHFmN7np5AFfs2EBY8Aqk648eIYXGr10k0k awerjqA54q5KmsJzFH0vT1HVkHNivCp5mdU889sING+GmjLWkps4cDJtWuuPQGtfFyxU JQll8l/IOMnH0e34x174cwx9ey8rOvJFGP6IHphKXbOEkrC+pz+euw6047jizCJmFlme +ZofOTu1Eh6R3FoKzjNYmDYwqBsUc7KOBxfDlQ67Qa3BzYbmqZKLTLvTreoIxxup/TIA BV3uwQaTU7TvnTsRJBzVYRIFcTzXOQdVJiNyKYLTwpYnn93ZGdN5Mye8r4QYDeu5BgJ4 jmFw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=A+rvp63tKqu+QhiJYVrn6QebUr0JoT0l1uESRpklzcQ=; b=TZevniqrpDlLdTgu5gR4yy/QDnY+QldY43tPcRV8YAoJXTgELc7x0j8ZglN9VAvOFS y9UhQx95YF5/pThB6GAkOFhnD3xEeS7QA4rUaLvncHGY1jUfPppI4R4aru2zZqOpMsIO waiOG8fulD1HLw2joB8JeFKWlUQ7uWP5w56/DngKGdk7aC3NcwndxDtabctIISdcjz+j t2/L+IZzXTA8hAGu1TnAFM6bW/Wj+krqlKD8w/nv1MNw20tRzBBB0v6m7Qttvob1wXQo BC2L9JDZI1dgSPMXsIWet5LfXZ2JMwfCur2g4CG7PT7neWVS6mKuay36KFSklETPqaIL RF8g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533NtUs7zGoavOO4hMydwc68wONY1rnz2Kro2E9Nq3tQRxxN0q7e ZiJlC9jwJBaBWSWaRO3pAuo3ft+S1eV5xYHC7GgBxOSSs5I= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw0YjGqgFjim7cUPli20AefVfuhr0n0M8UyWEnAY7zffLKcJozgd+fKYyG1cDH89QRV9fkYdK7GtzNYgItdWTE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6638:1612:b0:328:673b:d467 with SMTP id x18-20020a056638161200b00328673bd467mr2965220jas.180.1650216542461; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 10:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8795e2b5-aaf4-c17f-6e32-74977bba8ca9@panix.com> In-Reply-To: <8795e2b5-aaf4-c17f-6e32-74977bba8ca9@panix.com> From: Mark Knecht Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 10:28:50 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] for the speakup users on the list To: Gentoo User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 7fdc1332-a033-412e-9e9a-31620d722066 X-Archives-Hash: de5853228c4d9bdaa4d41e07a859ef79 On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 9:53 AM Jude DaShiell wrote: > > Yes, I am blind and can disassemble computers okay but never could learn > to assemble them since the equipment to test memory external to computers > has been and will remain inaccessible. This if it's done will have to be > done by a repair shop and likely will cost more to repair this machine > than replace it if that much work is involved. > I was curious about speakup as I had not heard about it so I attempted an install on my Ubuntu desktop but it's not in the default repositories. Reading the Ubuntu docs they say speakup is applied as a kernel patch to 2.4 & 2.6 level kernels and that to use it with a modern version the patches would have to be ported. It appears that all the docs on speakup I found quickly stalled out in 2008-2010. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/doc/Speakup Do you know of newer work? I'm curious about the program from a persona point of view. When I started at National Semiconductor in 1978 we had a cantankerous old guy working on text-to-speach synthesizers so I had a little bit of exposure. There are old Ubuntu releases here: https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ If I can figure out what kernels they were running I could possibly try creating a VM and see where it leads me. Echoing Jack's comment, I'm not sure this is a heat sink problem. Misoperation at the time of letting go of the reset button prior to POST. If the machine is starting cold a processor wouldn't overheat that fast but I haven't yet read all of your thread. I think there's also an opportunity here to do some sort of remote debug with you if we can find anything that does boot. Mark