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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2022 09:09:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK2H+edZztT+Z0NxS8rczjnOhQf+K08XwxY00vr_BR4LX03cDg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 8:52 AM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:50 PM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I
> > wonder, could one install the LVM stuff and use that?  That would be
> > interesting.  I wonder if there is a NAS software that uses LVM
> > instead.  Interesting thought.  I just may go bug google on that one.
 o_O
>
> Maybe I'm missing the point but why would you want LVM on a
> storage pool? If I'm doing backups I just want space. I let TrueNas
> put it on disk and give it back if asked. Why put another layer
> of indirection?
>
> If you're intending to use it as simple NAS - i.e. - the only copy
> of some data on your network - then possibly LVM might
> be interesting, but then you need a second TrueNAS box
> to back that up. NAS as a mountable data location is
> different than NAS doing backups which is what I thought
> this thread was about. What am I not remembering?
>
> - Mark
>
>
> It's more about me being more used to using LVM.  Also, more used to
Linux as well.  BSD is not something I have much experience with and until
recently, none with ZFS.  Even the little experience I have with BSD was
well over a decade ago, maybe two decades ago.  I barely remember it really.
>
> By replacing ZFS with LVM, I'm working with something I'm familiar with
and less likely to mess up things.  Things get messed up enough without
adding more confusion.  ;-)
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)

Hummm...I don't know Dale, I don't know... ZFS is a file system.
LVM is an abstraction on top (or underneath?) of a file system.
My understanding of LVM is that it frees you from hard decisions
on partition sizes, not that it replaces ZFS or ext3/4/5.

You may or may not know this but TrueNAS is available as a
Linux version:

https://www.truenas.com/blog/first-release-of-truenas-on-linux/

I don't recommend it. It's new. Let someone else figure it out. However
it might be more to your liking, and because it's Linux you'd be more
comfortable messing it up. ;0-

WRT you I recommend that you try living in NGL for a while. Possibly
you are just a bit too indoctrinated in the religion of building packages
30-50 times a year believing (without hard data) that it provides value.
Instead you might just consider relaxing and letting the system
take care of itself. In the last year I've only updated my TrueNAS box
twice that I can remember.

On the other hand if system tweaking is what brings you joy then
Que Sera Sera .....

Good luck,
Mark

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Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-08 12:37 [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives Dale
2022-12-08 13:31 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-08 13:58   ` Dale
2022-12-08 17:16     ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-08 23:35     ` Daniel Frey
2022-12-09  0:34       ` Dale
2022-12-10  0:10     ` Paul Colquhoun
2022-12-08 18:36   ` Wols Lists
2022-12-08 20:05     ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-08 20:44     ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-09 13:13       ` Michael
2022-12-09 13:38         ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-09 14:27           ` [OT] " Peter Humphrey
2022-12-09 14:38             ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-10  0:41               ` Peter Humphrey
2022-12-09 15:28           ` Dale
2022-12-10  9:20           ` Wols Lists
2022-12-10 16:19             ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-10 16:30               ` Wols Lists
2022-12-10 17:27                 ` Michael
2022-12-10 18:17                   ` David Rosenbaum
2022-12-11  4:45               ` David Rosenbaum
2022-12-09 14:15         ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-08 23:09     ` Dale
2022-12-08 13:52 ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-08 23:30   ` Dale
2022-12-08 23:38     ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-09  0:03       ` Dale
2022-12-09  0:17         ` Peter Humphrey
2022-12-09  0:45           ` Dale
2022-12-09  8:27             ` Wol
2022-12-09 10:34               ` Peter Humphrey
2022-12-11 11:34                 ` [OT] " Peter Humphrey
2022-12-13 17:36                   ` Laurence Perkins
2022-12-09  8:24         ` Wol
2022-12-09  0:06     ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-09  1:15       ` Dale
2022-12-09  7:56         ` Wol
2022-12-09  9:15           ` Dale
2022-12-09  6:22     ` William Kenworthy
2022-12-08 13:59 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-08 14:11   ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-08 16:56     ` Laurence Perkins
2022-12-08 23:26       ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-09 14:11 ` Dale
2022-12-10 20:41 ` Dale
2022-12-10 21:28   ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-10 23:54     ` Dale
2022-12-11  3:31       ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-11  4:35         ` Dale
2022-12-11 14:07           ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-11 15:01             ` Dale
2022-12-11 15:44               ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-11 23:43                 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-12  0:32                   ` Dale
2022-12-12  1:55                     ` Dale
2022-12-12 23:29                       ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-13  0:43                         ` Dale
2022-12-11  2:46     ` David Rosenbaum
     [not found]     ` <CAL+8heNN7CCQcTrhjuJboAnxvi7ACWVAgPuXqj3bwTPNaNQ94A@mail.gmail.com>
2022-12-11  2:49       ` David Rosenbaum
2022-12-11  4:38         ` David Rosenbaum
2022-12-16  4:08 ` Dale
2022-12-16 12:56   ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-16 22:35     ` Dale
2022-12-16 19:12   ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-16 22:43     ` Dale
2022-12-16 23:49       ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-17  3:50         ` Dale
2022-12-17  4:47           ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-17  6:49             ` Dale
2022-12-17 13:54               ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-17 15:15           ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-17 15:51             ` Dale
2022-12-17 16:09               ` Mark Knecht [this message]
2022-12-17 16:42                 ` Dale
2022-12-17 17:18                   ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-17 22:56                   ` David Rosenbaum
2022-12-17 19:10                 ` Wol
2022-12-17 20:03                   ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-17 23:41                     ` Dale
2022-12-18 14:04                       ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 15:12                         ` Dale
2022-12-18 15:27                           ` Michael
2022-12-18 18:38                             ` Dale
2022-12-18 18:55                               ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 19:20                                 ` Dale
2022-12-18 19:25                                   ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 22:08                                     ` Dale
2022-12-19 21:13                                       ` ralfconn
2022-12-18 18:56                               ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-18 15:29                           ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-18 18:59                             ` Dale
2022-12-18 19:53                               ` Wol
2022-12-18 22:11                                 ` Dale
2022-12-19 11:08                                   ` Wols Lists
2022-12-20  6:52                                     ` Dale
2022-12-26  8:01                                       ` David Rosenbaum
2022-12-26  8:00                                 ` David Rosenbaum
2022-12-18 15:29                           ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 15:38                             ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 15:48                               ` Living in NGL: was: " Jack
2022-12-18 16:17                                 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 19:00                                   ` Jack
2022-12-18 19:07                                   ` Dale
2022-12-18 19:22                                     ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 19:30                                     ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-18 20:06                                       ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-18 20:30                                         ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 20:34                                           ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 20:53                                           ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-18 21:53                                       ` Dale
2022-12-18 22:08                                         ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-18 22:18                                           ` Dale
2022-12-19  1:37                                         ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-19  5:11                                           ` Dale
2022-12-19 12:00                                             ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-19 12:51                                               ` Wols Lists
2022-12-19 13:30                                                 ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-19 16:43                                                   ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-20  0:00                                                     ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-20  1:46                                                   ` William Kenworthy
2022-12-18 17:11                           ` Wol
2022-12-18 18:03                           ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18  0:20                     ` Wol
2022-12-17 20:47                 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-21  0:14   ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-21  2:47     ` Dale
2022-12-21  5:53       ` Wols Lists
2022-12-21  6:19         ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-21  7:01           ` William Kenworthy
2022-12-21 20:03           ` Wol
2022-12-21 20:40             ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-21 21:33               ` Wol
2022-12-21  6:52         ` Dale
2022-12-21 13:50           ` Mark Knecht

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