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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer
From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
> Albert Hopkins <marduk@letterboxes.org> writes:
>
>> On Sunday, July 3 at 22:07 (-0500), Harry Putnam said:
>>> this is a no X machine... it appears at the cited URL they expect you
>>> to be running xorg.
>>
>> KMS doesn't require X, but Xorg can use it. =C2=A0Basically Xorg can let=
the
>> kernel handle graphics mode setting and gets out of the way.
>>
>> But KMS doesn't require X. =C2=A0The link I provided shows how to enable=
KMS.
>> it just happens to be in part of the Xorg docs.
>>
>
> Are you saying it does not require `xorg-x11'.
>
> Step 2) says in large type:
> =C2=A0 `2. =C2=A0Installing Xorg'
>
> Then a big note in a green box later on says:
>
> ,----
> | Note: You could install the xorg-x11 metapackage instead of the more
> | lightweight xorg-server. Functionally, xorg-x11 and xorg-server are
> | the same. However, xorg-x11 brings in many more packages that you
> | probably don't need, such as a huge assortment of fonts in many
> | different languages. They're not necessary for a working desktop.
> `----
>
> So I'm a little confused.
>
> ------- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--------- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ---=3D-=
-- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --------- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--------
>
> The way I've been doing this only required `vesa' or `uvesa' and some
> special kernel line stuff. =C2=A0None of the X related stuff is necessary=
.
>
> From covici's post... I think I may need to say uvesa where I've been
> saying vesa.
>
> I'm going to try that some time today. =C2=A0Its already enabled in my ke=
rnel
>
I'm a little confused by his post also, but I've never run a machine
without Xorg so maybe it's a technical point. With a framebuffer I
believe you can get a boot screen like the Install CD - a bunch of
little Tux's across the top - so you're doing graphics at that point
but you're not running X?
I was curious about this topic awhile back wondering if you could run
a Gentoo VM with only a framebuffer and get any graphics at all, or is
it just that the framebuffer is used to give you more control over the
console font/height/width selection.
(I've never run a framebuffer, if that's not obvious!) ;-)
- Mark