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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 08:01:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK2H+ecz2A-kAN81w9PMU56Mqb5i1e4sEEHMOvjQ58tbKSRPeg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F01CED2.5090806@libertytrek.org>

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@libertytrek.org> wrote:
> On 2012-01-01 6:22 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 2) I forget the -1 sometimes when I do an individual package update.
>> However I generally remember to go back and hand edit the world file
>> once a quarter or so and remove anything that isn't a real
>> application, etc.
>
>
> How do you tell which is which?
>

I tell by knowing which files I want in @world. Everything in world
should be a package __I__ specifically want to use. Everything in
world (on my machines anyway) is something:

1)  I'd call from the command line
2) Need to write a little software myself, most specifically a library
3) Aid in displaying things, like font packages
4) Something required by Gentoo that I don't totally understand, like
a virtual package.

I just look through every so often and make sure everything seems to
meet those sorts of requirements. When I find a library or something
else then:

1) I make sure I'm clean with emerge -DuN @world AND emerge -p --depclean
2) I'll delete the questionable item
3) I'll see what happens with the two commands in #1

To me it's pretty straight forward, but I'm also not bothered at all
by the idea that emerge package and emerge -u package do the same
thing. A machine that doesn't have a package, when updated, should
have the package and it should (IMO) be in world, but that's just me.

HTH,
Mark

mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /var/lib/portage/world
app-admin/syslog-ng
app-benchmarks/bonnie++
app-benchmarks/iozone
app-cdr/cdrtools
app-cdr/dvd+rw-tools
app-editors/vim
app-emulation/virtualbox
app-emulation/virtualbox-extpack-oracle
app-emulation/vmware-player
app-forensics/chkrootkit
app-misc/screen
app-pda/gtkpod
app-pda/ifuse
app-portage/eix
app-portage/gentoolkit
app-portage/layman
app-portage/portage-utils
app-text/acroread
dev-util/nvidia-cuda-sdk
dev-util/nvidia-cuda-toolkit
dev-util/strace
dev-vcs/subversion
kde-base/kde-meta
mail-client/mailx
mail-mta/ssmtp
media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi
media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi
media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo
media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1
media-fonts/freefont-ttf
media-fonts/freefonts
media-fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera
media-gfx/imagemagick
media-libs/exiftool
media-libs/mesa
media-sound/alsa-tools
media-sound/alsa-utils
media-video/dvdbackup
media-video/handbrake
media-video/nvidia-settings
media-video/smplayer
media-video/vobcopy
media-video/xine-ui
net-analyzer/nettop
net-dns/noip-updater
net-fs/samba
net-im/skype
net-misc/ntp
net-misc/rdesktop
net-misc/telnet-bsd
net-misc/tightvnc
net-misc/unison
net-misc/whois
sci-libs/ta-lib
sys-apps/dstat
sys-apps/hdparm
sys-apps/hwinfo
sys-apps/less
sys-apps/lshw
sys-apps/microcode-ctl
sys-apps/mlocate
sys-apps/portage
sys-apps/smartmontools
sys-boot/grub-static
sys-fs/dosfstools
sys-fs/fuse
sys-fs/mdadm
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:3.1.0-r1
sys-kernel/module-rebuild
sys-power/apcupsd
sys-power/cpufrequtils
sys-power/powertop
sys-process/iotop
sys-process/lsof
sys-process/time
sys-process/vixie-cron
virtual/jdk
virtual/jre
www-client/firefox
www-plugins/adobe-flash
www-servers/thttpd
x11-apps/mesa-progs
x11-apps/xclock
x11-apps/xhost
x11-base/xorg-drivers
x11-base/xorg-server
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev
x11-drivers/xf86-input-virtualbox
x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev
x11-drivers/xf86-video-virtualbox
x11-misc/driconf
x11-misc/read-edid
x11-misc/xsnap
mark@c2stable ~ $



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-02 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-01 21:50 [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-01 22:06 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-01 22:13   ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-01 22:31     ` Dale
2012-01-01 22:40       ` Mark Knecht
2012-01-01 22:49         ` Dale
2012-01-01 22:54           ` Claudio Roberto França Pereira
2012-01-01 23:06             ` Dale
2012-01-01 23:07             ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-01 23:07         ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-01 23:22           ` Mark Knecht
2012-01-02 15:35             ` Tanstaafl
2012-01-02 15:47               ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 15:53               ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 16:01               ` Mark Knecht [this message]
2012-01-02 16:09                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 16:16                   ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 16:20                     ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 23:33                       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-03  0:01                         ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 16:33                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 17:06                       ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 17:39                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 17:45                           ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 17:55                             ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 18:07                               ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 18:20                                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 20:50                               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 21:08                                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 21:25                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 21:33                                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 22:41                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 23:11                                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 23:29                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 23:48                                             ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-03  7:46                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-03 19:48                                                 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-03  0:01                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 23:25                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 23:49                                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-03  0:04                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-03  0:22                                         ` Dale
2012-01-03  2:00                                           ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-03 13:00                                             ` Mick
2012-01-03  2:00                                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-03 11:09                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 17:47                           ` Mark Knecht
2012-01-02 17:55                             ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 17:58                             ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-03 14:05                               ` Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
2012-01-03 14:47                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-03 14:51                                   ` Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
2012-01-03 14:54                                 ` (Was) " Michael Mol
2012-01-03 14:55                                   ` Michael Mol
2012-01-03 16:00                                     ` Mick
2012-01-03 16:18                                       ` Michael Mol
2012-01-03 17:39                                         ` Mick
2012-01-03 17:43                                           ` Michael Mol
2012-01-03 17:52                                           ` Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
2012-01-03 18:12                                             ` Mick
2012-01-03 18:21                                               ` Michael Mol
2012-01-03 17:25                                       ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 21:11                       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 21:18                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 21:28                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 21:37                             ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 21:34                           ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 21:48                             ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 21:58                               ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 22:13                                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 22:45                                   ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 23:12                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 21:20                         ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 16:22                   ` Mark Knecht
2012-01-02 16:33                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 16:59                       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 17:04                   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 16:57               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 17:29                 ` Mark Knecht
2012-01-02 17:47                   ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 20:48                   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-03 11:49                     ` Tanstaafl
2012-01-03 12:04                       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-04 11:57                         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-02 18:14               ` Graham Murray
2012-01-02  0:09           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02  0:24             ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02  9:19               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 10:06               ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 10:18                 ` Mick
2012-01-02 13:46                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 15:31     ` Tanstaafl
2012-01-02 15:47       ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 15:47       ` Michael Mol
2012-01-01 22:12 ` Dale
2012-01-02  9:58   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 10:19     ` Dale
2012-01-02 10:56       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 11:06         ` Dale
2012-01-02 13:36           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 13:50             ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 14:02               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 14:50                 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 15:05               ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 15:26                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 16:25                   ` Frank Steinmetzger
2012-01-02 16:34                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 18:38                       ` Dale

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