From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-200106-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B11B158020 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Thu, 8 Dec 2022 17:17:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC8BDE0870; Thu, 8 Dec 2022 17:17:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf1-x132.google.com (mail-lf1-x132.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80A28E0837 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 8 Dec 2022 17:17:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-x132.google.com with SMTP id bp15so3007644lfb.13 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 08 Dec 2022 09:17:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=talnnJ5ZEZoIoLoRC4+lz4+FT+KOG46E2s/1FEb+SDg=; b=S3W4B9WpEGjiuf8zv9M3oZ3gwOn6L95h46lfyegl3wmnkNNvdgmse5nOFS2/xbn2/6 esCeIOqxZzPFv4nZ/bz3mKvwlD++RISj4IBHmlefddyMLCBiNDC3C27ECZ5vxv2oezf1 3qQmP6MlPzYohwySnQn/Moo3siwmhGDYAeGAN3m8e/uflP4iUv11E8oxZFQX7XSyXc0R TqsKNgraFonRr7jzA2O2JkKCovApbYENXYeGhHTtgRB8nUeULbaZP5yD2vS9UHiJvwYs azFujWL/tSnZHdHlU8YyRD4RYx/3QECjV3OPU8v84rfyRBjTF9f502OVlv9bfjpp9rPs BS1w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=talnnJ5ZEZoIoLoRC4+lz4+FT+KOG46E2s/1FEb+SDg=; b=IwtdrpMqF4Sb+I6qBletF+LP9kTSxr/2CL2pdmcM9OUuM57XftoHSO5hR0cRQoq0Pr MbVBWkIb73brVHYE/0oJuvHKtiSsJLvpU1rkzWNzRJbbvnmTKcYMl+W9Az1cbqVtTv8j q45aTVMc8W5ye2ssOIcWPhDdKNtkTaFquREbZFCoy6r2g5O+d4FhaE7tVyfR8h5pZqGU A1CaYKCkn/v+oxgDhJHE0H44lMWf+zJEVNnUIGKyB2qAqZALuAT2jFvRBkHwp1soDm2c m80DacDsN7d3fXKBuoU9q7cb4lCSElhV/MycrI5sLIvIO4x+Pu4VfXfhCfo34TXxqBGK X5DA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pm1a6gyl3jpJj0Dwh/LkuYGb+iO1EzJ2/HQAvY7h1gC5gGillGw 1sze8o1kTl0jbK7aA5h6ix/i1nXnbaA6KwomHXkRozL0 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf577+oOHm9WSdRrgQQoxno1WCO8N0SLtzedreuELmBLyqAly4e625vuWy/lc+XGnD0PP7zUbnHClwccCQZnMN0= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:5331:0:b0:4ab:35a8:2fa0 with SMTP id f17-20020ac25331000000b004ab35a82fa0mr31943050lfh.233.1670519821539; Thu, 08 Dec 2022 09:17:01 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9407e524-2226-6ba9-dd7f-bac635d083e3@gmail.com> <CAK2H+efJNj59_bj=tghVNADOLd_qsH9H5Q4Gf5N881e0evr_rw@mail.gmail.com> <2de66c79-5d14-1a54-74cf-43390eec7869@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2de66c79-5d14-1a54-74cf-43390eec7869@gmail.com> From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2022 10:16:50 -0700 Message-ID: <CAK2H+ecDpAfq+Mr5JDDRWH3OPj8M3w3FF3-db9RrMOCbJ2CMwg@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008d9fd805ef54340c" X-Archives-Salt: 4168df1f-7657-4cab-865f-d936044851a2 X-Archives-Hash: a060929124a105d727230b3d3ab629b3 --0000000000008d9fd805ef54340c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 6:59 AM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote: > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > DAS is direct-attached-storage. I don't think you want that. <SNIP> > I was thinking DAS was not a good option. It seems like a feature removed and cheaper version of NAS. I've never touched a DAS box but my limited understanding is that it's an external box that interfaces to your computer. In your case that might attached to your backup machine, or is Rich or someone can point you toward an appropriate RP4 or some other single board computer it could attach to that. The problem will be the interface. In big rack mount servers these interfaces are often some high end version of PCI Express with Multi-gigabyte/second interfaces. You're just not likely to find something like that on an RP4. If you really wanted to tinker you can always find used rack mount servers being retired from cloud hosting services on Ebay. They generally come with fast Ethernet interfaces and more than enough compute power but likely not as much disk space as you seem to want. (There's lots of used Synology boxes there also...) I still think that an 8TB USB drive from Amazon for around $100 would meet your needs. Off load the stuff you don't need to access from backups immediately, through the drive in your fire safe and you suddenly have 8TB free on your backup machine. It's slow, but it's easy and requires no new computers and hence to mental bandwidth. Good luck. --0000000000008d9fd805ef54340c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 6:59 AM Dale <<a href=3D= "mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com">rdalek1967@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>><b= r>> Mark Knecht wrote:<br>><br>> DAS is direct-attached-storage. I= don't think you want that.<br><SNIP><br>> I was thinking DAS = was not a good option.=C2=A0 It seems like a feature removed and cheaper ve= rsion of NAS. <br> <div><br></div><div>I've never touched a DAS box but= my limited understanding is that it's an</div><div>external box that i= nterfaces to your computer. In your case that might</div><div>attached to y= our backup machine, or is Rich or someone can point</div><div>you toward an= =C2=A0appropriate RP4 or some other single board computer</div><div>it coul= d attach to that. The problem will be the interface. In big rack</div><div>= mount servers these interfaces are often some high end=C2=A0version=C2=A0</= div><div>of PCI Express with Multi-gigabyte/second interfaces. You're j= ust</div><div>not likely to find something like that on an RP4.</div><div><= br></div><div>If you really wanted to tinker you can always find used rack = mount</div><div>servers being retired from cloud hosting services on Ebay. = They=C2=A0</div><div>generally come with fast Ethernet interfaces and more = than=C2=A0</div><div>enough compute power but likely not as much disk space= as=C2=A0</div><div>you seem to want. (There's lots of used Synology bo= xes there</div><div>also...)</div><div><br></div><div>I still think that an= 8TB USB drive from Amazon for around $100</div><div>would meet your needs.= Off load the stuff you don't need to=C2=A0</div><div>access from backu= ps immediately, through the drive in your=C2=A0</div><div>fire safe and you= suddenly have 8TB free on your=C2=A0</div><div>backup machine. It's sl= ow, but it's easy and requires no new=C2=A0</div><div>computers and hen= ce to mental bandwidth.</div><div><br></div><div>Good luck.</div></div> --0000000000008d9fd805ef54340c--