* [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
@ 2011-10-13 22:22 Stefan G. Weichinger
2011-10-19 21:05 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
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From: Stefan G. Weichinger @ 2011-10-13 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Anyone hitting the same issue?
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6824432.html?sid=ff31450ec4a661979b3545e662bdfbb1
AFAI understand glibc-2.13-r4 (as in ~amd64 right now) is too new for
the vmware-binary?
Did I understand correctly?
Is there a workaround? Downgrading glibc is not the way to go, ey? ;-)
S
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
2011-10-13 22:22 [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay Stefan G. Weichinger
@ 2011-10-19 21:05 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2011-10-19 21:14 ` Mark Knecht
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From: Stefan G. Weichinger @ 2011-10-19 21:05 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Am 14.10.2011 00:22, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>
> Anyone hitting the same issue?
>
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6824432.html?sid=ff31450ec4a661979b3545e662bdfbb1
>
> AFAI understand glibc-2.13-r4 (as in ~amd64 right now) is too new
> for the vmware-binary?
>
> Did I understand correctly?
>
> Is there a workaround? Downgrading glibc is not the way to go, ey?
> ;-)
So the answer is .... no? Or "noone" ;-)
S
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
2011-10-19 21:05 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
@ 2011-10-19 21:14 ` Mark Knecht
2011-10-20 9:53 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
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From: Mark Knecht @ 2011-10-19 21:14 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger <lists@xunil.at> wrote:
> Am 14.10.2011 00:22, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>>
>> Anyone hitting the same issue?
>>
>> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6824432.html?sid=ff31450ec4a661979b3545e662bdfbb1
>>
>> AFAI understand glibc-2.13-r4 (as in ~amd64 right now) is too new
>> for the vmware-binary?
>>
>> Did I understand correctly?
>>
>> Is there a workaround? Downgrading glibc is not the way to go, ey?
>> ;-)
>
> So the answer is .... no? Or "noone" ;-)
>
> S
I've decided to stick with vmware-player-3.1.4 for use as a Netflix VM
only. All of my real work is done in Virtualbox VMs using both 32-bit
NT and 64-bit Win 7. The only problem I've had recently is that my
dual monitor Win 7 VM tends to 'abort' about 40% of the time when
starting. Once it's up and running it's fine, but getting it started
on any day is pretty much hit-or-miss.
HTH,
Mark
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
2011-10-19 21:14 ` Mark Knecht
@ 2011-10-20 9:53 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2011-10-20 9:56 ` Andrey Moshbear
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From: Stefan G. Weichinger @ 2011-10-20 9:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Am 19.10.2011 23:14, schrieb Mark Knecht:
> I've decided to stick with vmware-player-3.1.4 for use as a Netflix VM
> only. All of my real work is done in Virtualbox VMs using both 32-bit
> NT and 64-bit Win 7. The only problem I've had recently is that my
> dual monitor Win 7 VM tends to 'abort' about 40% of the time when
> starting. Once it's up and running it's fine, but getting it started
> on any day is pretty much hit-or-miss.
hmm, nothing I long for ---
I stay w/ vmware-player-3.1.5 for now (out of vmware-overlay).
Thanks, S
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
2011-10-20 9:53 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
@ 2011-10-20 9:56 ` Andrey Moshbear
2011-10-20 10:57 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-10-20 12:27 ` [gentoo-user] " Stefan G. Weichinger
0 siblings, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Andrey Moshbear @ 2011-10-20 9:56 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 05:53, Stefan G. Weichinger <lists@xunil.at> wrote:
> Am 19.10.2011 23:14, schrieb Mark Knecht:
>
>> I've decided to stick with vmware-player-3.1.4 for use as a Netflix VM
>> only. All of my real work is done in Virtualbox VMs using both 32-bit
>> NT and 64-bit Win 7. The only problem I've had recently is that my
>> dual monitor Win 7 VM tends to 'abort' about 40% of the time when
>> starting. Once it's up and running it's fine, but getting it started
>> on any day is pretty much hit-or-miss.
>
> hmm, nothing I long for ---
>
> I stay w/ vmware-player-3.1.5 for now (out of vmware-overlay).
>
> Thanks, S
>
I've had rather pleasant experiences with virtualbox. Less
libhell/libnazism, too.
Plus, less drivers to modprobe (just vboxdrv, vboxnet as needed)
instead of the 4 or so needed for vmware.
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* [gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
2011-10-20 9:56 ` Andrey Moshbear
@ 2011-10-20 10:57 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-10-20 12:27 ` [gentoo-user] " Stefan G. Weichinger
1 sibling, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Nikos Chantziaras @ 2011-10-20 10:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 10/20/2011 12:56 PM, Andrey Moshbear wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 05:53, Stefan G. Weichinger<lists@xunil.at> wrote:
>> Am 19.10.2011 23:14, schrieb Mark Knecht:
>>
>>> I've decided to stick with vmware-player-3.1.4 for use as a Netflix VM
>>> only. All of my real work is done in Virtualbox VMs using both 32-bit
>>> NT and 64-bit Win 7. The only problem I've had recently is that my
>>> dual monitor Win 7 VM tends to 'abort' about 40% of the time when
>>> starting. Once it's up and running it's fine, but getting it started
>>> on any day is pretty much hit-or-miss.
>>
>> hmm, nothing I long for ---
>>
>> I stay w/ vmware-player-3.1.5 for now (out of vmware-overlay).
>>
>> Thanks, S
>>
>
> I've had rather pleasant experiences with virtualbox. Less
> libhell/libnazism, too.
> Plus, less drivers to modprobe (just vboxdrv, vboxnet as needed)
> instead of the 4 or so needed for vmware.
You don't modprobe. There's /etc/init.d/vmware which you add to the
default runlevel or simply start manually with "/etc/init.d/vmware start".
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
2011-10-20 9:56 ` Andrey Moshbear
2011-10-20 10:57 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
@ 2011-10-20 12:27 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2011-10-20 13:00 ` Mark Knecht
1 sibling, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Stefan G. Weichinger @ 2011-10-20 12:27 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Am 20.10.2011 11:56, schrieb Andrey Moshbear:
>> I stay w/ vmware-player-3.1.5 for now (out of vmware-overlay).
> I've had rather pleasant experiences with virtualbox. Less
> libhell/libnazism, too.
> Plus, less drivers to modprobe (just vboxdrv, vboxnet as needed)
> instead of the 4 or so needed for vmware.
As Nikos mentioned, no problem.
I have Linux KVM also available here, so instead of migrating the VM to
virtualbox (and installing that) I could also migrate the VM to KVM and
get rid of VMware. Using the "player" was only kind of curiosity back
then and then staying with it for that one particular VM (back then I
had problems w/ specific USB-devices in KVM. Should be solved long ago)
S
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
2011-10-20 12:27 ` [gentoo-user] " Stefan G. Weichinger
@ 2011-10-20 13:00 ` Mark Knecht
2011-10-20 13:28 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
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From: Mark Knecht @ 2011-10-20 13:00 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger <lists@xunil.at> wrote:
> Am 20.10.2011 11:56, schrieb Andrey Moshbear:
>
>>> I stay w/ vmware-player-3.1.5 for now (out of vmware-overlay).
>
>> I've had rather pleasant experiences with virtualbox. Less
>> libhell/libnazism, too.
>> Plus, less drivers to modprobe (just vboxdrv, vboxnet as needed)
>> instead of the 4 or so needed for vmware.
>
> As Nikos mentioned, no problem.
>
> I have Linux KVM also available here, so instead of migrating the VM to
> virtualbox (and installing that) I could also migrate the VM to KVM and
> get rid of VMware. Using the "player" was only kind of curiosity back
> then and then staying with it for that one particular VM (back then I
> had problems w/ specific USB-devices in KVM. Should be solved long ago)
>
> S
I've wanted to try out the Linux KVM stuff but watching the
development list gave me the feeling it wasn't stable enough to depend
on day to day.
- Mark
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
2011-10-20 13:00 ` Mark Knecht
@ 2011-10-20 13:28 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2011-10-20 16:47 ` Mark Knecht
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From: Stefan G. Weichinger @ 2011-10-20 13:28 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Am 20.10.2011 15:00, schrieb Mark Knecht:
> I've wanted to try out the Linux KVM stuff but watching the
> development list gave me the feeling it wasn't stable enough to depend
> on day to day.
I have that stuff out at customers.
Gentoo hosts run KVM, in there virtual Windows-machines for various
specific software they need.
Stable so far.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
2011-10-20 13:28 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
@ 2011-10-20 16:47 ` Mark Knecht
2011-10-20 22:13 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2011-10-24 22:12 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
0 siblings, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Mark Knecht @ 2011-10-20 16:47 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:28 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger <lists@xunil.at> wrote:
> Am 20.10.2011 15:00, schrieb Mark Knecht:
>
>> I've wanted to try out the Linux KVM stuff but watching the
>> development list gave me the feeling it wasn't stable enough to depend
>> on day to day.
>
> I have that stuff out at customers.
>
> Gentoo hosts run KVM, in there virtual Windows-machines for various
> specific software they need.
>
> Stable so far.
Good to know. Maybe I'll give it a try.
The following is more for my own to do list. Feel free to respond if
you know of a good Gentoo oriented web page for using KVM.
- I believe I've read that somehow I can convert my VMware Player
image to something that KVM runs directly. Is that correct? If so I
can move there pretty quickly, at least in terms of a simple test.
- I suppose there's a bunch of kernel config I need to do first, as
well as emerge some sort of KVM apps?
Cheers,
Mark
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
2011-10-20 16:47 ` Mark Knecht
@ 2011-10-20 22:13 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2011-10-24 22:12 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
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From: Stefan G. Weichinger @ 2011-10-20 22:13 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user; +Cc: Mark Knecht
Am 20.10.2011 18:47, schrieb Mark Knecht:
> The following is more for my own to do list. Feel free to respond if
> you know of a good Gentoo oriented web page for using KVM.
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/KVM
?
> - I believe I've read that somehow I can convert my VMware Player
> image to something that KVM runs directly. Is that correct? If so I
> can move there pretty quickly, at least in terms of a simple test.
KVM is able to use (some versions) of vmdk-files, yes.
Converting images is also possible, for examples see:
http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/convert-vmware-vmdk-to-kvm-qcow2-or-virtualbox-vdi/
> - I suppose there's a bunch of kernel config I need to do first, as
> well as emerge some sort of KVM apps?
See mentioned wiki-page for a start.
Stefan
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
2011-10-20 16:47 ` Mark Knecht
2011-10-20 22:13 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
@ 2011-10-24 22:12 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2011-10-25 5:25 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
1 sibling, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Stefan G. Weichinger @ 2011-10-24 22:12 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Am 20.10.2011 18:47, schrieb Mark Knecht:
>> Gentoo hosts run KVM, in there virtual Windows-machines for various
>> specific software they need.
>>
>> Stable so far.
>
> Good to know. Maybe I'll give it a try.
reply 2, new thoughts
(perspective: running *one* Windows-XP-VM on a desktop-machine, for some
specific software):
Linux 3.1 brings KVM-related improvements. I will check those.
I don't see any performance-issues here with KVM, waiting for
vmware-player just out of curiosity ... (and KVM is told to be more
efficient anyway, closer-to/inside the kernel).
Choosing KVM would mean running only one virtualization here,
simplifying things and going the open-source path.
I simply haven't migrated that one XP-VM yet because I didn't need to so
far.
Stefan
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* [gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
2011-10-24 22:12 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
@ 2011-10-25 5:25 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-10-25 11:15 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2011-11-01 11:13 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
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From: Nikos Chantziaras @ 2011-10-25 5:25 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 10/25/2011 01:12 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 20.10.2011 18:47, schrieb Mark Knecht:
>
>>> Gentoo hosts run KVM, in there virtual Windows-machines for various
>>> specific software they need.
>>>
>>> Stable so far.
>>
>> Good to know. Maybe I'll give it a try.
>
> reply 2, new thoughts
> (perspective: running *one* Windows-XP-VM on a desktop-machine, for some
> specific software):
>
> Linux 3.1 brings KVM-related improvements. I will check those.
>
> I don't see any performance-issues here with KVM, waiting for
> vmware-player just out of curiosity ... (and KVM is told to be more
> efficient anyway, closer-to/inside the kernel).
How is video and mouse performance? VMware has drivers for that; you
install them inside the guest. There is seamless mouse integration with
guest-host, and very fast graphics (I can run Windows Aero without
problem.) I can also drag&drop files between my Linux and Windows
desktop and also share the clipboard.
Does KVM have something similar?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
2011-10-25 5:25 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
@ 2011-10-25 11:15 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2011-10-25 17:08 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2011-11-01 11:13 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
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From: Stefan G. Weichinger @ 2011-10-25 11:15 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user; +Cc: Nikos Chantziaras
Am 25.10.2011 07:25, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
> How is video and mouse performance? VMware has drivers for that; you
> install them inside the guest. There is seamless mouse integration with
> guest-host, and very fast graphics (I can run Windows Aero without
> problem.) I can also drag&drop files between my Linux and Windows
> desktop and also share the clipboard.
>
> Does KVM have something similar?
You are right, the integration isn't that smooth yet.
KVM brings virtio-drivers to access NICs and block-devices on a lower
level: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Virtio
drag&drop and clipboard: I haven't tested these w/ KVM yet, this would
also have to be integrated within the client accessing the VMs. VMM for
example does use VNC under the hood, AFAIK.
I assume KVM isn't that handy yet as vmware-player is.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
2011-10-25 5:25 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-10-25 11:15 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
@ 2011-11-01 11:13 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2011-11-01 12:12 ` Nikos Chantziaras
1 sibling, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Stefan G. Weichinger @ 2011-11-01 11:13 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user; +Cc: Nikos Chantziaras
Am 25.10.2011 07:25, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
> How is video and mouse performance? VMware has drivers for that; you
> install them inside the guest. There is seamless mouse integration with
> guest-host, and very fast graphics (I can run Windows Aero without
> problem.) I can also drag&drop files between my Linux and Windows
> desktop and also share the clipboard.
>
> Does KVM have something similar?
But you don't have vmware-player-4 running on gentoo, do you?
If yes, how?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
2011-11-01 11:13 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
@ 2011-11-01 12:12 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-11-01 19:16 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Nikos Chantziaras @ 2011-11-01 12:12 UTC (permalink / raw
To: lists; +Cc: gentoo-user
On 11/01/2011 01:13 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 25.10.2011 07:25, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
>> How is video and mouse performance? VMware has drivers for that; you
>> install them inside the guest. There is seamless mouse integration with
>> guest-host, and very fast graphics (I can run Windows Aero without
>> problem.) I can also drag&drop files between my Linux and Windows
>> desktop and also share the clipboard.
>>
>> Does KVM have something similar?
>
> But you don't have vmware-player-4 running on gentoo, do you?
>
> If yes, how?
layman -a vmware
Then you can emerge it (version 4.0.0.471780-r1 as of right now.)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
2011-11-01 12:12 ` Nikos Chantziaras
@ 2011-11-01 19:16 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2011-11-03 21:18 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
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From: Stefan G. Weichinger @ 2011-11-01 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user; +Cc: Nikos Chantziaras
Am 2011-11-01 13:12, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
> On 11/01/2011 01:13 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>> Am 25.10.2011 07:25, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
>>> How is video and mouse performance? VMware has drivers for that; you
>>> install them inside the guest. There is seamless mouse integration with
>>> guest-host, and very fast graphics (I can run Windows Aero without
>>> problem.) I can also drag&drop files between my Linux and Windows
>>> desktop and also share the clipboard.
>>>
>>> Does KVM have something similar?
>>
>> But you don't have vmware-player-4 running on gentoo, do you?
>>
>> If yes, how?
>
> layman -a vmware
>
> Then you can emerge it (version 4.0.0.471780-r1 as of right now.)
yes, I already have it, as mentioned in the other reply to this thread.
Figured it out to work a few mins after first posting.
S
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
2011-11-01 19:16 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
@ 2011-11-03 21:18 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2011-11-04 4:32 ` Nikos Chantziaras
0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Stefan G. Weichinger @ 2011-11-03 21:18 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user; +Cc: Nikos Chantziaras
Am 01.11.2011 20:16, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>> Then you can emerge it (version 4.0.0.471780-r1 as of right now.)
>
> yes, I already have it, as mentioned in the other reply to this thread.
> Figured it out to work a few mins after first posting.
How do you upgrade the hardware version of the VMs?
player isn't able to do that, and there are new goodies w/ player-4 (and
hw-version 8).
app-emulation/vmware-converter is masked .... with fat warnings ...
Stefan
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* [gentoo-user] Re: Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
2011-11-03 21:18 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
@ 2011-11-04 4:32 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-11-04 8:20 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Nikos Chantziaras @ 2011-11-04 4:32 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 11/03/2011 11:18 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 01.11.2011 20:16, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>
>>> Then you can emerge it (version 4.0.0.471780-r1 as of right now.)
>>
>> yes, I already have it, as mentioned in the other reply to this thread.
>> Figured it out to work a few mins after first posting.
>
> How do you upgrade the hardware version of the VMs?
Maybe you just create a new one and attach your old disk images to it.
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