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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?
From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>
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On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>> One interesting small point I got out of the docs that Neil pointed me
>> toward: That since linux-2.6 we're all using an initramfs "The 2.6
>> kernel build process always creates a gzipped cpio format initramfs
>> archive and links it into the resulting kernel binary. By default,
>> this archive is empty (consuming 134 bytes on x86)." So it's a nit but
>> no one should be saying "I don't use an init thingy" but rather "My
>> init thingy is empty and has no jobs to do on my system". (Or at least
>> that's my understanding...) - Mark
>
>
> Hence it will not fail, right?  Adding another point of failure is my
> problem with this.  As I have said before, when I was using Mandriva,
> then Mandrake, the init thingy would fail on a regular basis.  It is one
> reason I left Mandriva.  I got tired of the breakage and Gentoo didn't
> need one.  So, here I am, good or bad.  ;-)
>
> Dale


Dale,
   not enough info:

   If the init thingy is empty and if your kernel boots then it did not fail.

   If the init thingy is not empty and your kernel boots it did not fail.

   If the init thingy is not empty and your kernel does not boot we
don't know what failed. Might be your init thingy, might be something
else.

   I hope you understand I understand both your POV as well as your
frustration. Maybe the work I'm doing in my thread will allow both of
us to be more comfortable with init thingies. I'm going the opposite
direction as you. I don't need one (on most of my home machines) but
I'm going to add one on all my machines. It will become part of the
way I maintain them all and hopefully I'll get more comfortable with
the process.

Cheers,
Mark