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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>
To: Gentoo User <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:00:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK2H+ec5ss2W+8fSQCi0565nAKQAqCKey-bW+LoNR-UxS1vPSw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50DB5F54.7090906@gmail.com>

On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>> One interesting small point I got out of the docs that Neil pointed me
>> toward: That since linux-2.6 we're all using an initramfs "The 2.6
>> kernel build process always creates a gzipped cpio format initramfs
>> archive and links it into the resulting kernel binary. By default,
>> this archive is empty (consuming 134 bytes on x86)." So it's a nit but
>> no one should be saying "I don't use an init thingy" but rather "My
>> init thingy is empty and has no jobs to do on my system". (Or at least
>> that's my understanding...) - Mark
>
>
> Hence it will not fail, right?  Adding another point of failure is my
> problem with this.  As I have said before, when I was using Mandriva,
> then Mandrake, the init thingy would fail on a regular basis.  It is one
> reason I left Mandriva.  I got tired of the breakage and Gentoo didn't
> need one.  So, here I am, good or bad.  ;-)
>
> Dale


Dale,
   not enough info:

   If the init thingy is empty and if your kernel boots then it did not fail.

   If the init thingy is not empty and your kernel boots it did not fail.

   If the init thingy is not empty and your kernel does not boot we
don't know what failed. Might be your init thingy, might be something
else.

   I hope you understand I understand both your POV as well as your
frustration. Maybe the work I'm doing in my thread will allow both of
us to be more comfortable with init thingies. I'm going the opposite
direction as you. I don't need one (on most of my home machines) but
I'm going to add one on all my machines. It will become part of the
way I maintain them all and hopefully I'll get more comfortable with
the process.

Cheers,
Mark


  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-26 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 252+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-14 12:19 [gentoo-user] Anyone switched to eudev yet? Dale
2012-12-14 13:26 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-12-14 13:41   ` Dale
2012-12-14 14:04     ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 14:25       ` Dale
2012-12-14 15:39         ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 16:20           ` Tanstaafl
2012-12-14 17:34             ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 19:02               ` Tanstaafl
2012-12-14 16:23   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-14 16:32     ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 16:33     ` Michael Mol
2012-12-14 17:06       ` Dale
2012-12-14 16:52     ` Dale
2012-12-14 17:44       ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 20:49         ` Dale
2012-12-14 15:01 ` [gentoo-user] " Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 15:48   ` Dale
2012-12-14 16:07     ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 16:29       ` Dale
2012-12-14 16:53         ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 17:14           ` Dale
2012-12-14 21:34           ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-15 10:18             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-15 17:43               ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-16 12:51                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-16 21:19               ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-12-16 21:30                 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-16 22:14                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-16 22:25                   ` Nikos Chantziaras
2012-12-15  8:16           ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-16 15:10             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-16 18:49               ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-16 20:32                 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-16 20:51                   ` Dale
2012-12-17  0:26                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-17  5:44                     ` Dale
2012-12-17  5:57                       ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-12-17  6:09                         ` Dale
2012-12-17  6:24                           ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-12-17  6:44                             ` Dale
2012-12-17 11:33                           ` Kevin Chadwick
     [not found]                     ` <CAA2qdGWkfmiQVAKb76wq57scQ-T5p2U7HE4VdN8BnTX0oZHS1g@mail.gmail.com>
2012-12-17  5:54                       ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-17  7:38                     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-17  7:33                   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-17  7:29                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-17  8:02               ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-17  8:46                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-18 11:44                   ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-18 12:55                     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-18 13:34                     ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-18 22:02                       ` Marc Joliet
2012-12-19 18:48                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-19 21:42                           ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-18 14:08                   ` Michael Mol
2012-12-18 14:33                     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-18 22:55                       ` Michael Mol
2012-12-18 23:07                         ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-19  3:05                           ` Michael Mol
2012-12-19  9:30                             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-19  9:38                             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-19 10:14                               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-19  9:26                         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-19 15:03                           ` Michael Mol
2012-12-23 10:22                       ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 16:20                         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-23 17:03                           ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 17:20                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-12-23 17:44                               ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 17:53                                 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-23 18:06                                   ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 20:39                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-24  1:27                                   ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-24  8:06                                     ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 10:58                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-24 15:14                                         ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-24 15:52                                           ` Dale
2012-12-24 23:09                                             ` William Kenworthy
2012-12-25 20:39                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 21:05                                                 ` Dale
2012-12-26 21:35                                               ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 23:46                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-25 11:33                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-24 15:10                                       ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-24 15:20                                     ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 19:43                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-27 19:59                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-27 20:07                                   ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 20:14                                   ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24  6:55                             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-24 12:58                               ` Dale
2012-12-24 13:21                                 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24 13:58                                   ` Dale
2012-12-24 15:06                                     ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24 15:27                                       ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 15:56                                         ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24 16:00                                           ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 16:11                                         ` Dale
2012-12-24 16:14                                           ` Dale
2012-12-24 16:34                                             ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 17:02                                               ` Dale
2012-12-24 15:43                                       ` Dale
2012-12-24 16:29                                       ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 17:00                                         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-25 12:10                                         ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 12:46                                           ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 13:22                                             ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 16:40                                               ` Dale
2012-12-25 17:17                                                 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 17:53                                                   ` Dale
2012-12-25 18:54                                                     ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 22:49                                                       ` Dale
2012-12-25 22:54                                                   ` Paul Colquhoun
2012-12-25 23:12                                                     ` Dale
2012-12-26 11:55                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-26 14:19                                                       ` pk
2012-12-24 16:25                                     ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 16:41                                       ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 17:05                                         ` Dale
2012-12-24 17:15                                           ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 18:58                                             ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-25  1:54                                               ` Dale
2012-12-26 15:56                                                 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 18:48                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-24 20:00                                   ` Dale
2012-12-24 20:15                                     ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 21:23                                     ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-24 22:36                                       ` Dale
2012-12-24 23:17                                         ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25  0:34                                         ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25  2:00                                           ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25  2:33                                           ` Dale
2012-12-25 21:15                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 21:42                                               ` Dale
2012-12-25 22:07                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-24 23:04                                       ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25  0:29                                         ` »Q«
2012-12-25  0:54                                           ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25  1:30                                             ` Dale
2012-12-25  2:13                                             ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 16:51                                               ` Todd Goodman
2012-12-25 23:26                                                 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26 11:40                                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-26 14:24                                                   ` Todd Goodman
2012-12-26 17:03                                                     ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26 17:22                                                       ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-26 20:34                                                         ` Dale
2012-12-26 21:00                                                           ` Mark Knecht [this message]
2012-12-25  2:03                                           ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25  2:38                                             ` Dale
2012-12-25 12:58                                               ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 16:01                                                 ` Dale
2012-12-26 16:01                                               ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-26 20:42                                                 ` Dale
2012-12-27  3:23                                                   ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 16:13                                                     ` Dale
2012-12-27 16:24                                                       ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-27 17:46                                                       ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 18:15                                                         ` Dale
2012-12-27 18:31                                                           ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 18:41                                                             ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 19:02                                                               ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-27 22:29                                                                 ` Dale
2012-12-29  0:43                                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-27 16:28                                                     ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 18:22                                                       ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 18:40                                                         ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 20:16                                                           ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 20:59                                                             ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 22:37                                                               ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-28  4:20                                                                 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-28 14:10                                                                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-28 14:21                                                                     ` Michael Mol
2012-12-26 21:31                                                 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-25 21:19                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 22:00                                         ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 22:13                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 22:20                                             ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 23:04                                               ` Dale
2012-12-25 23:10                                                 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 23:56                                                   ` Dale
2012-12-24 21:43                                     ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 22:23                                       ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 23:31                                         ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 23:58                                           ` Dale
2012-12-25  0:44                                           ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 22:52                                       ` Dale
2012-12-24 22:11                                     ` Daniel Wagener
2012-12-25  3:56                                   ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-25  7:38                                     ` [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? -> what was wron with SysVInit? G.Wolfe Woodbury
2012-12-25  8:01                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-25 11:14                                         ` G.Wolfe Woodbury
2012-12-25 13:14                                         ` Michael Mol
2012-12-25 13:35                                           ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 18:01                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27  0:45                                             ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-27  1:14                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27  1:26                                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 16:00                                                 ` pk
2012-12-27 23:24                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 18:15                                                     ` pk
2012-12-28 18:55                                                       ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-12-28 19:01                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 22:40                                                         ` pk
2012-12-29  1:05                                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28  1:06                                               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-28  1:24                                                 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 13:56                                         ` Joshua Murphy
2012-12-25 18:14                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-26 22:22                                           ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-26 22:19                                         ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-26 23:01                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-26 23:51                                             ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27  0:57                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 16:29                                                 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 23:38                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 18:53                                                     ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-28 19:14                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 20:17                                                         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-28 20:36                                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-29  3:48                                                           ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-28 23:23                                                         ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-29  1:06                                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27  0:27                                             ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-25 13:02                                     ` [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 13:18                                       ` Michael Mol
2012-12-25 15:01                                       ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-25 23:31                                         ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26  0:19                                           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-26  2:16                                           ` Michael Mol
2012-12-26  3:24                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-26 17:13                                               ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26 18:47                                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 23:07                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-04 23:22                                       ` Mike Edenfield
2013-01-05  2:41                                         ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 19:41                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-19 18:42               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-19 21:53                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-19 22:45                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-20  3:45                 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-20 16:47                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-20 20:59                     ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-23 10:26                     ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-20 21:01                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-20 21:46                     ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-21  0:09                       ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-21  0:45                         ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-21  8:28                         ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-15 10:16           ` [gentoo-user] " pk
2012-12-14 16:17     ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 16:31       ` Dale

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