From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2010D1581D3 for ; Sat, 25 May 2024 23:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74D2EE2A04; Sat, 25 May 2024 23:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lj1-x231.google.com (mail-lj1-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::231]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06B7BE29A7 for ; Sat, 25 May 2024 23:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lj1-x231.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2e576057c06so100345021fa.0 for ; Sat, 25 May 2024 16:14:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1716678866; x=1717283666; darn=lists.gentoo.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=JBbjC0R+xIabs5NlNz6x2p5MMurdVTbCg7Ry7vHWX2I=; b=iKL9hGIhvj7Z5ndH7KWtOFf/Et1GES4KCjOpauzZenhmcounYf++YgH01TnvYVkY5k SZlO2rJ1cknIuSrn0MSszAUTY1hqBG7d/QFz/3FFU2Q9avjoQED43tuW3f6DPD+xywBL RldHm0yBkce6qm9Inj2nexinXOmmLnLLvSi0nUYXzpi/GuYD8bskb/KHHFn58XyA2NSx DYjpJxIyK4ZZz17WHItGODQ/lVvuk8frwiuoY4KWwpnL4AbumV/6TtQ5K0xDzlciTbUu Wn+jO7TwlChkdDIYIXhQMawcQWl06TbGLfDQMhlRfCvNfM/JHv0QB0QzP40wPe4rH1SF VtJQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1716678866; x=1717283666; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=JBbjC0R+xIabs5NlNz6x2p5MMurdVTbCg7Ry7vHWX2I=; b=Ly5v6RLe5MiqHbohvFSo+BZdBZ3OHTKxqOyl/9RUmYbCdl0Gm6N9qnE70ZVKuXNMwt Gy5shwH/gDndS/+1LnMC+HbfOq1qlXNnSwsr+7rEKov+Eo53EFYOKT83okatC9/K2ZTa JmSP4avN9wET83P870BDGKGw1geOCiGcpsoaxW8EG0H6gF/wmMHtLVmCKzg7Jvpxtf+/ P08W7byvZUmbCARnx/NCEAYbEEiwdUDCGXnWjHE+ixDufxuGP9qDc2FSHEyIRPApKxSZ bY5aEjO94G69K0sGlksRsX1ysa73JZT+d8h3kY7Bsst370FRv8io90GGRwu8KCzqGC/R MkEA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyrPb63p/MSfelbmfuLTiBtgVKM4UKg/kSfaboFEraYf8HOQ2Ol nCPTLhpvnOCN5dQh2uS9NscBXw1vDYWInlQ5GkvxMvzSsTneWAvHUDG5sdlyXKDKicj+vIT09EG Y1N6VupP4AmYISZuZtkEl8bZVfGb2TA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFPB8O0qJGgYT6b5h1pc8UepxU1uT/fErybCuCoUYK5CFO3T1Ef93ckH0zFTreGjNlcSyWco2eMBCiYeoATYUI= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:b60f:0:b0:2e6:fec1:dd75 with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2e95b07038fmr41817151fa.8.1716678865673; Sat, 25 May 2024 16:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Mark Knecht Date: Sat, 25 May 2024 16:14:13 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Off Topic - UPnP servers To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fb6b5106194f713a" X-Archives-Salt: a743a21c-e21c-44a3-a0d1-6f7d4eeac795 X-Archives-Hash: ec57454d73f008f6acb7d8e12f1fe945 --000000000000fb6b5106194f713a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 25, 2024 at 3:14=E2=80=AFPM Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-05-24, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > The unit showed up today and was a breeze to set up and get running > > at a basic level. The device requires an app on my phone. > > That sets of an alarm for me. > > > The app is available for Android and Apple but not available for the > > Amazon Fire tablet. > > Good luck... I avoid products like that. There have been too many > "smart" things in the past that required an app -- then the app > stopped working two or three years later. The purchaser of the thing > now has a useless lump, and has to start shopping for a replacement. Yeah, that's a reasonable point of view and one I hadn't considered. Cheers. Mark --000000000000fb6b5106194f713a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, May 25, 2024 at 3:14=E2=80=AFPM Grant Edwa= rds <grant.b.edwards@gmail.= com> wrote:
>
> On 2024-05-24, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
>= ;
> > The unit showed up today and was a breeze to set up and get = running
> > at a basic level. The device requires an app on my pho= ne.
>
> That sets of an alarm for me.
>
> > The = app is available for Android and Apple but not available for the
> &g= t; Amazon Fire tablet.
>
> Good luck...=C2=A0 I avoid products = like that. There have been too many
> "smart" things in the= past that required an app -- then the app
> stopped working two or t= hree years later. The purchaser of the thing
> now has a useless lump= , and has to start shopping for a replacement.

Yeah, that's= a reasonable point of view and one I hadn't considered.

=
Cheers.
Mark
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