From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FD5138293 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 01:18:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D0C5141FE; Sun, 29 May 2016 01:17:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vk0-f66.google.com (mail-vk0-f66.google.com [209.85.213.66]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 115C7141A5 for ; Sun, 29 May 2016 01:17:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vk0-f66.google.com with SMTP id k1so12833798vka.1 for ; Sat, 28 May 2016 18:17:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=5Hrd7pGvtHkKURTHa+7tUOOxl4oUugh3GBfCJVaxMY8=; b=S0UxRdCVodhHrpVj1ioaZPdxjQdTvbJjgbACdT45MKzor04Emtc31AO4XGQwgjZE2x XKBpbkF6AnwI0oOFTw/XnI3Z3RLnDiMsTCBzM+MO1/hb2DGgSRgOVlWsI2Q6NAi3xYfl wBtAdAb+cl+JPqLzK/oGHBA+NDvbppQWrFXf9ybufcDmiBwiLHWIezkyhGW0l13JPiXU vtbvmUg9iahvJIHLUqaZMMpx8duPuoi0MsnezpBTHy/8QCE7vY4PMqNkBFoTHgKs3fAh jYWXroyBw6ufrQ/cvQrkORdbEGB/AwqqMoQJk3kLC4g65fs2oFe8RjwAqzePnwi8k7UO 9ZRg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=5Hrd7pGvtHkKURTHa+7tUOOxl4oUugh3GBfCJVaxMY8=; b=k/J6Jqg9fHjNTJ/VZzjuksI+ktnTlNt3O6KBbw0gqo+kyKvRmB2BC1Cew9u23ArmDk g6KaztVsjReyQAR1YfMH9FhUjSVufhYjB0o1Fs2aD7ARkpLYdGD4Jg9xZfFu+5Q7xX8e rBWYK7JeGuGLHg3e3Swul/pagur4vD20yg32VVKsL0mCGTebSVlnRLAkwrYorIXypjk+ guZTnUDeY0XlAbtTqH8e/KPNUvUhjQjfophrFm/Ze5ngvOoSRQJQ8bL8Rgt9zRRc0dEt 4NP7qzSssRLr/7aciRW5bd7dSOOXGXLKOBLT6t6/jQVgSqFMQ5meHXRqVJ80v0pdZ215 t+AA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLowosPDUnXjQHPJ86pXp/JcqdV2WxjIyw2A1ryaV5tZLIdeV5j+BzknnzxH7EIpPoMU0Wz15JajvdEfA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.106.197 with SMTP id f188mr12337213vkc.107.1464484673078; Sat, 28 May 2016 18:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.129.79 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2016 18:17:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160528215322.12a267c2@digimed.co.uk> References: <5749C1AE.5020905@verizon.net> <20160528111929.503f9bbd@sepulchrave.remarqs> <5749D00C.4030408@gmail.com> <5749E469.7020601@gmail.com> <5749E832.1030404@gmail.com> <5749F761.7020803@googlemail.com> <20160528215322.12a267c2@digimed.co.uk> Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 21:17:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin. From: Gregory Woodbury To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c093050b7cfee0533f0e889 X-Archives-Salt: 8ea8796b-b16d-450a-ac07-c02b0db993ad X-Archives-Hash: 62a0de955ec98ef7384984c5aea8411c --94eb2c093050b7cfee0533f0e889 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 28 May 2016 21:54:09 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > thanks a lot. My eyes are bleeding. > > Serves you right for being daft enough to read it again! > > I'd suggest that Alan RTFM for the commands he uses, but that would be a > waste of keystrokes. > > I have to agree with ng0 WOW! Alan just wants to start it and walk away, as if Gentoo was a binary distribution that handles it all upstream. He doesn't want to take the time to review what emerge is proposing and see if changes are needed first. Hey Alan: Gentoo is NOT a start an update and walk away setup. Some human mind needs to be involved if troubles arise. Also, read make.conf(5) and set up the various variables correctly; PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET should only have one python version set. Furthermore, the current portage doesn't require the revdep-rebuild step because of the @preserved-rebuild set creation. In any case, to try and force things through without looking at what problems are occuring is just (excuse my language) batshit crazy stupid. I use my update generator script so make the emerge command(s) just so I can preview the packages and modify the sequences or leave out some updates if i need/want to do so. (E.g. I may want to defer a chromium or libreoffice update to after other updates are done and/or set them to occur with a lower niceness or an ionice idle class.) -- G.Wolfe Woodbury redwolfe@gmail.com --94eb2c093050b7cfee0533f0e889 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
On S= at, 28 May 2016 21:54:09 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

> thanks a lot. My eyes are bleeding.

Serves you right for being daft enough to read it again!

I'd suggest that Alan RTFM for the commands he uses, but that would be = a
waste of keystrokes.

=

I have to agree with ng0

WOW!

Alan just wants to start it and wal= k away, as if Gentoo was a binary distribution
that handles it all upstream.=C2=A0 He doesn't want to take the tim= e to review what
emerge is proposing and se= e if changes are needed first.

Hey Alan: Gentoo is NOT a start an update and walk= away setup. Some human=C2=A0
mind needs to= be involved if troubles arise.=C2=A0 Also, read make.conf(5) and set up=C2= =A0
the various variables correctly; PYTHON= _SINGLE_TARGET should only have
one python = version set.

Furthermore, the current portage doesn't require the revdep-rebu= ild step because
of the @preserved-rebuild = set creation.

In any case, to try and force things through without looking at wha= t problems are occuring
is just (excuse my = language) batshit crazy stupid.

<= div class=3D"gmail_extra">
I use my upd= ate generator script so make the emerge command(s) just so
I can preview the packages and modify the sequences or lea= ve out some updates
if i need/want to do so= . (E.g. I may want to defer a chromium or libreoffice update
to after other updates are done and/or set them to occur = with a lower niceness or
an ionice idle cla= ss.)

--=C2=A0
G.Wolfe= Woodbury
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