From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22CFB1382C5 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2020 12:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C952FE095D; Sun, 6 Dec 2020 12:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lj1-x233.google.com (mail-lj1-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E2CBE0949 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2020 12:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lj1-x233.google.com with SMTP id i15so4643501ljg.9 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2020 04:53:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Sbbzd/jvWyMGaGql7K5F66XytF1aPb2hkalWj7ez4Rw=; b=Bwq+d/E/CNUdizm4lJuANY97niJfUoU1eij4rBY7DbgIyNxfq4rabWtCEFcJh4Ow8v qMV3JwU6MDKZSKdT5zrJ1jzsiDQKSBGrKlWb4yr83OC7fr86oOa6E9GlkNgH9qiswyHf oN+UOK6KBPK/rptW7Hz4yJ7fVYoiFSor3pqrMCqi+kDQVqpPSX8J7ZEIeDFGLMOmEiSf 5+a54WqEyQA8DOkXnJ+CQLuiu5NvkxSP+aQmyGYh0Nz9Jt9LBe6DCeCI7vw/MtAmpClF FC4o3EUd0m/xYzaN8fu7+QbS5ansis0kvBVlVMaDKuSEdNlYT6+jFNGnIQddsWJVu4iQ bgtA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Sbbzd/jvWyMGaGql7K5F66XytF1aPb2hkalWj7ez4Rw=; b=Im8FigAEZs6n6WFyJfiR0giYsQY+pLpgT75BqWnaNpf96YzMnTaBU0wBIFbO2zi3RL +H0ujrYLkP0cl9nJEtwFJIokD8UmT5DjX1ioENzKz9j8On7CBLQeHGw6o2ms9DK10UmG SwevPmvBLwDEISDK9K+U007KnnsWUFaEavwfEnn6wWfNC9CuhOIPvbr7q78lMr4vh3MU ZikukhypA1+HHiZ2PdnU74Y+aR2kjCJh2zdHxViSGKPl+B+N891BNVFpyzt3Oc+OZ6DA kyw7p8UoIByCQ/RZV7df/UJV43sgpEp/0MO69O39EsUrvvgyPDYFyKYlkAiz12hUsnGa MTqw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531l4rTHrs1P/p97Qb9eJP0OAQvMldo8+LBpWPBD4UGBRXt7Qrpy y0jg76g+PfOsnsLR30lLmaQUwRoHKEmDgrCO3gSb1dwW X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzgT71i05PRROd3By5UO25idbecgLbh/fW8zwNIAneboZ4j4rNHV3+R7Rvb+eQjnyNPxsnam1l12Sxwhf+ByOU= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:94cc:: with SMTP id r12mr7103635ljh.64.1607259229544; Sun, 06 Dec 2020 04:53:49 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2179606.ElGaqSPkdT@lenovo.localdomain> <20201206123718.07e5689a@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20201206123718.07e5689a@digimed.co.uk> From: Arve Barsnes Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 13:53:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way. To: Gentoo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: f51c4ce5-b480-4b43-b1b7-4a5df3ac728c X-Archives-Hash: f5a71d93c7ba5699255dd34932d15562 On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 13:37, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Despite the claims that systemd is > monolithic, it is not. It is an ecosystem comprised of many parts, some > of which can be used without any other systemd components, like > systemd-tmpfiles and systemd-boot, not to mention udev. Despite repeated claims that it is not, all evidence points to it being very much a monolithic code base, with tight coupling between most of the parts. That you can disable compilation of so many parts that some of the parts appear as stand-alone after compilation is not evidence against that. > Maybe the devs need to rename the systemd-tmpfiles package to satisfy > those that break out in a sweat at the mention of the s-word :) Since the compilation of this package consists of downloading a systemd release, and disabling building of almost everything but this component, it seems to very much be named correctly as it is. Regards, Arve