From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DA61387D3 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 20:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 83C51E084C; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 20:48:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f49.google.com (mail-la0-f49.google.com [209.85.215.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 225D7E0830 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 20:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f49.google.com with SMTP id gf13so3799295lab.36 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:48:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VhCVNtqEnVdZY1VzwNAb/EGJYXvUdLHRB+9vNY7B1jw=; b=m1dmCuskNkGBalS8Uyxoe31Vt6h07d8DHmB06qxMpdmUTHi+FQFs70x0hohSBWN6K1 J9OUUgbvmY+0qrAasDrba7w/uoT8BIf1bFTWDNPJOGWXrdMIM+fwnRUOaTxlePsqlJ6F t5J6+J2hcCyFyeD+NWAA6kLe1ixtpbOuxQ5oYnrunElL2Nq+5EiuV9FJHe04RTc9lAgI bbk9GDhuI0kKIL1F4/mXmQED8YRyYZyY87wIEemWI15P2QWrpYLfns1pQAXz5LcNqsvb 6loENX6PY7qv5vhVkIy6eQycTHFo+jJneIkdvo0IWt0oPjWffRVCkmdXDLTPiWNXKAFF yuSQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.153.4.44 with SMTP id cb12mr19378370lad.10.1414356521480; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.51.110 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:48:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <544D5CC1.3010708@gmail.com> References: <544D4FB6.3030701@googlemail.com> <544D51E6.6030302@alectenharmsel.com> <544D5CC1.3010708@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:48:41 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels From: Alexander Kapshuk To: Gentoo mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 3ab37c06-835b-49fb-bc40-0768b9bd3daf X-Archives-Hash: 7d2f492ac3579a2b79b5db42883c55af On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Alan McKinnon w= rote: > On 26/10/2014 22:21, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: >>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 10/26/2014 03:47 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>>>> Am 26.10.2014 um 20:09 schrieb Alexander Kapshuk: >>>>>> I've been using gentoo-sources for a while now. >>>>>> >>>>>> I remember reading on this list about some users using alternative >>>>>> kernels on their gentoo systems. My understanding is that amongst so= me >>>>>> of the other alternatives, besides the genkernel, which I'm not >>>>>> interested in using, are vanilla-sources available in the portage >>>>>> tree, and the sources available on kernel.org. >>>>>> I'd appreciate being given some pointers on how the folk here mainta= in >>>>>> their alternative kernels. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> I let portage update the vanilla-sources and once in a while a build = and >>>>> install a new kernel. At the moment I am on 3.12.23. Maybe I install >>>>> 3.12.30 tonight. If I find a good reason to do so. >>>>> >>>> What happens when you run `emerge --depclean`? >>>> >>>> I always un-keyword the exact version of vanilla-sources that I'm >>>> running since I update and depclean on a weekly basis. I'm not a huge >>>> fan of having a bunch of kernels under /usr/src/linux-* but only havin= g >>>> a couple of them compiled, but to each his own I guess. >>> >>> I have sys-kernel/vanilla-sources in package.keywords, unversioned. So >>> depclean cleans away the older versions, and I keep the latest one. >>> >>> I'm on 3.17.1 right now, but the moment 3.17.2 comes out I will switch >>> to it in all my machines: with kerninst is all of it mostly >>> automatized. >>> >>> And with systemd, rebooting to a new kernel takes just a few seconds ;) >>> >>> Regards. >>> -- >>> Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s >>> Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias >>> Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico >>> >> >> Do you know if vanilla-sources plays well with openrc, as that is what I= use? >> Thanks. > > > Yes it does. There's no logical reason to think it doesn't. > > You do have to set some kernel options, but that is true for just about > everything in the kernel - you won't have support for hardware X unless > you enable hardware X in the kernel config :-) > > One of the additions with gentoo-sources is the very first menu item, > all it does is enable a bunch of stuff that supported init systems > (openrc and systemd) use - it's purely a convenience measure and doesn't > change the kernel itself per se. systemd for example will need cgroups > enabled, openrc needs udev-mount. It's all in the ebuild, and portage > throws an error is something required is not set in .config. > > > > -- > Alan McKinnon > alan.mckinnon@gmail.com > > Terrific. Thanks.