From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5403138CA2 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 17:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EDA8FE0937; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 17:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com (mail-wi0-f171.google.com [209.85.212.171]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E64ECE083B for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 17:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wiax7 with SMTP id x7so134811929wia.0 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 10:02:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=C2t/gSSkcHzHfITlHkD0gl0rKIB6LUXL3AExj2KHYtQ=; b=rOhNZRYc3M8qBjd85Cwx0LB8hlYe0e+Ib4z/Vh0GBPowjo39h/D/2b34gxYPZ3AY6l tHcPwyMpodPuVoYBwgkBi/dvDCyiawm6HhXn9RPaQUHWkXVG7m6clDLCNjhnPGRPtgAc OtM1/79Yf3ellsGNDZHlxEq5/V4rHMcNnB41K5zi+jHQZ727Dcrm7zvHE1SKd1cXItlJ 6W16zMrq9o0RhWaXsJ1t+E2pMnyERbsdOWuZKnzghCFGb4NekuI/ehcO9XehdHV6mYH2 3+alZoo73stYw8sfU7pRk8LOL9CL5JRqtiFxTxhqEDcawAzZRNUWDTFA3hyG4vTsobjN qAfQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.184.146 with SMTP id eu18mr10436979wjc.94.1429722150908; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 10:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.156.212 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 10:02:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <553734A7.2080608@gmail.com> References: <5535E331.1040508@gmail.com> <553734A7.2080608@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 20:02:30 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] stable java virtuals require unstable java packages From: Alexander Kapshuk To: Gentoo mailing list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6d8b80eeb6d4051453206a X-Archives-Salt: b086d1b1-fe42-40a7-8e9e-b298cd6c3144 X-Archives-Hash: 8de6fbbf8ebde893f181e510f0236c7d --047d7b6d8b80eeb6d4051453206a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 21/04/2015 20:54, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Alan McKinnon > > wrote: > > > > On 21/04/2015 07:28, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > > > Is it normal for a stable virtual to require an unstable package? > > > > > > No, that is definitely not how virtuals should work. > > > > It's either a bug in virtual/jdk-1.7 ebuild or more likely, stable > > request for icedtead-bin-7 is lagging behind. > > > > I know the java team is badly understaffed, lots of mentions on > -dev, so > > maybe log a stable request but against icedtea-bin-7 > > > > > > > > > > > > Running 'emerge -auND' generates the following output on my system: > > > > > > Calculating dependencies .... ....... done! > > > [ebuild NS ~] dev-java/icedtea-bin-7.2.5.3 [6.1.13.5] USE="X > alsa > > > cups nsplugin -cjk -doc -examples (-selinux) -source -webstart" > > > [ebuild NS ] virtual/jdk-1.7.0 [1.6.0-r2] > > > [ebuild NS ] virtual/jre-1.7.0 [1.6.0-r1] > > > [ebuild U ~] dev-java/icedtea-web-1.5.1-r1 [1.4.2] > USE="icedtea7%* > > > -tagsoup%" > > > > > > The following keyword changes are necessary to proceed: > > > (see "package.accept_keywords" in the portage(5) man page for > > more details) > > > # required by virtual/jdk-1.7.0::gentoo > > > # required by virtual/jre-1.7.0::gentoo > > > # required by sys-libs/db-4.8.30-r2::gentoo[java] > > > # required by dev-libs/redland-1.0.16::gentoo[berkdb] > > > # required by app-office/libreoffice-4.4.1.2::gentoo > > > # required by @selected > > > # required by @world (argument) > > > =dev-java/icedtea-bin-7.2.5.3 ~x86 > > > # required by dev-java/icedtea-bin-7.2.5.3::gentoo[nsplugin] > > > # required by virtual/jdk-1.7.0::gentoo > > > # required by virtual/jre-1.7.0::gentoo > > > # required by sys-libs/db-4.8.30-r2::gentoo[java] > > > # required by dev-libs/redland-1.0.16::gentoo[berkdb] > > > # required by app-office/libreoffice-4.4.1.2::gentoo > > > # required by @selected > > > # required by @world (argument) > > > =dev-java/icedtea-web-1.5.1-r1 ~x86 > > > > > > /usr/portage/virtual/jre/jre-1.7.0.ebuild:12 > > > =virtual/jdk-1.7.0* > > > /usr/portage/virtual/jdk/jdk-1.7.0.ebuild:12,13 > > > =dev-java/icedtea-bin-7* > > > =dev-java/icedtea-7* > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > -- > > Alan McKinnon > > alan.mckinnon@gmail.com > > > > > > > > Understood. Thanks. > > Turns out the virtual is working as designed - see Andreas's post above > > I recall now a discussion on -dev about this ages ago, and a consensus > emerged then to keep things as they currently are (changing it requires > much effort and has all manner of effects on the tree). The actual rule is: > > A virtual can (by definition) be stable as soon as one of its providers > is stable. > > > > -- > Alan McKinnon > alan.mckinnon@gmail.com > > > I ended up doing as suggested by Andreas and yourself. Thanks. --047d7b6d8b80eeb6d4051453206a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Alan McKinnon <a= lan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
=
On 21/04/2015 20:54, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
> <mailto:alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On 21/04/2015 07:28, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Is it normal for a stable virtual to require a= n unstable package?
>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0No, that is definitely not how virtuals should work= .
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0It's either a bug in virtual/jdk-1.7 ebuild or = more likely, stable
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0request for icedtead-bin-7 is lagging behind.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I know the java team is badly understaffed, lots of= mentions on -dev, so
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0maybe log a stable request but against icedtea-bin-= 7
>
>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Running 'emerge -auND' generates the f= ollowing output on my system:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Calculating dependencies=C2=A0 .... ....... do= ne!
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> [ebuild=C2=A0 NS=C2=A0 =C2=A0~] dev-java/icedt= ea-bin-7.2.5.3 [6.1.13.5] USE=3D"X alsa
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> cups nsplugin -cjk -doc -examples (-selinux) -= source -webstart"
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> [ebuild=C2=A0 NS=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ] virtual/jdk-1.= 7.0 [1.6.0-r2]
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> [ebuild=C2=A0 NS=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ] virtual/jre-1.= 7.0 [1.6.0-r1]
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> [ebuild=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0U ~] dev-java/icedt= ea-web-1.5.1-r1 [1.4.2] USE=3D"icedtea7%*
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> -tagsoup%"
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> The following keyword changes are necessary to= proceed:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 (see "package.accept_keywords"= in the portage(5) man page for
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0more details)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> # required by virtual/jdk-1.7.0::gentoo
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> # required by virtual/jre-1.7.0::gentoo
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> # required by sys-libs/db-4.8.30-r2::gentoo[ja= va]
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> # required by dev-libs/redland-1.0.16::gentoo[= berkdb]
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> # required by app-office/libreoffice-4.4.1.2::= gentoo
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> # required by @selected
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> # required by @world (argument)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =3Ddev-java/icedtea-bin-7.2.5.3 ~x86
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> # required by dev-java/icedtea-bin-7.2.5.3::ge= ntoo[nsplugin]
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> # required by virtual/jdk-1.7.0::gentoo
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> # required by virtual/jre-1.7.0::gentoo
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> # required by sys-libs/db-4.8.30-r2::gentoo[ja= va]
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> # required by dev-libs/redland-1.0.16::gentoo[= berkdb]
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> # required by app-office/libreoffice-4.4.1.2::= gentoo
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> # required by @selected
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> # required by @world (argument)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =3Ddev-java/icedtea-web-1.5.1-r1 ~x86
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> /usr/portage/virtual/jre/jre-1.7.0.ebuild:12 >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3Dvirtual/jd= k-1.7.0*
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> /usr/portage/virtual/jdk/jdk-1.7.0.ebuild:12,1= 3
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3Ddev-java/i= cedtea-bin-7*
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3Ddev-java/i= cedtea-7*
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Thanks.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Alan McKinnon
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0alan.mckinnon@gmail.com <mailto:alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> Understood. Thanks.

Turns out the virtual is working as designed - see Andreas's post above=

I recall now a discussion on -dev about this ages ago, and a consensus
emerged then to keep things as they currently are (changing it requires
much effort and has all manner of effects on the tree). The actual rule is:=

A virtual can (by definition) be stable as soon as one of its providers
is stable.



--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com



I end= ed up doing as suggested by Andreas and yourself.

Thanks.

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