From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-167690-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28DD13881D for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 16:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0150C21C065; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 16:12:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF916E087C for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 16:12:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io0-f173.google.com (mail-io0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: floppym) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BB7A1340F67 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 16:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iofb144 with SMTP id b144so153950392iof.1 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 09:12:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.107.8.212 with SMTP id h81mr14612256ioi.89.1443370373568; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 09:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.20.85 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 09:12:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56080B2A.3040709@gmail.com> References: <56080616.5090406@gmail.com> <CAJ0EP43cNPV0XAgAcm9vMQ-V+o+vjWA3Zv=-SKryruR_CJYG4g@mail.gmail.com> <56080B2A.3040709@gmail.com> From: Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 12:12:34 -0400 Message-ID: <CAJ0EP403_WuJSjpmvX5-A179SGQOJ4GewQiFZnXiGdfN4oCWtw@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] dynamic deps, wtf are they exactly To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 1e2ae736-9a9f-486a-8df8-6a345502f855 X-Archives-Hash: 1ba0e9352f5bf1f5d26afaaffb612f36 On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote: > On 27/09/2015 17:12, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote: >>> So, my question: wtf are dynamic deps? How do I find the records they >>> must leave behind in portage? >> >> For the latter question, you can rebuild affected packages like so: >> >> emerge --with-bdeps=y @changed-deps. >> >> You can also add --changed-deps to your emerge command line for world updates. >> > > > Thanks. Running that gives surprising and unexpected results. I'm now > curious what changed-deps really does, and the man page is terse on this. > > I would have thought portage already does that automatically, but I see > a difference. If a package's deps change, but everything is still > satisfied, portage will do nothing. Does @changed-deps rebuild > everything that changed anyway, regardless is portage thinks it still OK? Basically, yes. If [R]DEPEND in /var/db/pkg is different from the values in the ebuilds in the tree, @changed-deps will select it. > Also, these two similar commands return different results (I have > bdeps=y in DEFAULT_OPTS btw): > > emerge -uND --changed-deps=y world (51 packages) > emerge @changed-deps (11 packages) > > Do you know why those commands give different results? > The smaller list is a strict subset of the longer one. That difference is surprising; you would probably need to ask the portage developers to get a real answer.